Why should a casual be showered in the best gear availible, if he is just doing casual stuff and not mythic raiding, m+ high keys or doing high rated arenas?
So he can have superior gear to kill low level toons more quickly in warmode and random ques in bgs? Tell me the reasion?
If anything the difficulty could be raised, but HUGE organization obstacles removed - like alliance pvp player looking for high rated rbg groups in lfg - usually you are starring the screen half a day before anything happens at all, raiders and mythic+ key players have it really good they find groups instantly.(and might get rejected, but at last there is something on the screen)
More could be done with Thorgast its not on par with visions mask +5 and i wonder why? Add higher layers and increase difficulty similar as in corridors and put in weekly gear on par with at least m+10 keys in the big vault.(ilvl220)
One barrier for casual is finding groups that carry them, at least in visions +5 you could carry yourself and could improve on that basis, read some guides and improve solely on your own without any organization headache.
I would definately benefit from that playing alts, too.
But i guess the high IQ people at blizzard allready left a sinking ship or work on diablo titles.
It is very confusing, and irritating. Gotta go find that thread about annoying phrases people use and add that to the list.
I don't think the "not able to commit to a schedule" crowd are necessarily wrong, with some exceptions. A casual might be someone who cannot commit to a schedule and that might even be the reason they play casually, but that doesn't mean someone who can't commit to a schedule is a casual by default.
Though I think it should be pretty clear that under no circumstances are casual player and unskilled player synonymous with one another. Thinking casual = bad is just categorically wrong.
assuming casual and solo are synonymous is even worse.
Agree on basically everything. The only scenario in which casual/no commitment = bad is when a player "wastes" his time doing activities that are basically not useful for his character progression. Example, you have limited time to play and you level multiple characters, jumping from one another - it's not bad per se, because someone can have fun just leveling characters and playing different classes, but then if time constraints are a thing, AND you want some kind of advanced character progression, you need to make choices, due to how the game is structured.
The "bad" lies in setting the wrong goals to pursue or not focusing on the right activities to achieve such goals. If i want 2400 PvP ranking, i need to do PvP and train myself, not expect that doing some arenas sometimes will over time bring me up there (just an example).
This is really the only case i can see as "bad". I have personally been there - refusing to do M+ because i don't like them, but once i got into it i found it wasn't THAT terrible and it was actually the missing piece i have to do. I still don't like them, but doing 4/week is not a huge time sink and nets me good rewards. It's things like this that improve both progression and gametime a lot.
Non ti fidar di me se il cuor ti manca.
I agree. And since casual does not mean unskilled, there is nothing stopping them from doing m+, a few arena games, and rbg, or pugging a heroic raid. The thread should be retitled to replace "casual" with "unskilled player"
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Notice I never implied you did...
You said you think it could be a large reason. I was just giving you my opinion
Well, that depends. I don’t play for the loot. I would like to get to KSM to prove myself I can do something “difficult” even with really few spare time.
Loot helps to give runs a little more % of success chances but I’m not mad about it, I’m more mad being forced to pug and having to play 75% of runs with clueless people. Really, I have no idea on how these many people could reach 1000-1100 rio, it’s just unbelievable.
I agree, thread should refer to unskilled players over casual. That's not to say casual players don't have road blocks they run into from time to time, but its hardly a "fullstop you can't play you should quit" type of situation.
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I mean if you WANT to send me a mythic set in the mail I'm hardly going to protest lol People can talk about how they don't want free shit; they want to earn it, and that is very noble of them, round of applause.
Now send them a stimulus check some boes and see how many return to sender.
(p.s. I'm kidding about the stimmy, that was a joke, couldn't resist)
Mythic plus is always easier at the start of a season. Mythic raiders spam it the first few weeks and once they are gone the ones that got picked up get left behind.
A good way to look at this is with "completed runs" If they have massive amounts of 10keys done but only one or two 15 be very wary.
Casual player does not mean he is not skilled LOL vice versa no lifer does not mean he is skilled player Im casual and did KSM 221ilvl am i noob casual dread player ?
If your idea is progressing far above ilvl 200 by doing only random bgs and world quests, unfortunately the answer is “don’t give Blizzard any other money”.
It’s sad for you, I know it, but as of today it’s like this.
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Casual means a lot of things and everyone has its own definition of the word. So for someone you’re a casual, for someone else you aren’t
Didn't even have to be that high. Hell it doesn't even have to be gear. Implement templates or a PvP stat again, or put in an ilvl bracket for random BGs, and I would have been happy.
But Blizz and the WoW community seem to think I should pay for the game only to take punches to the face and kicks in the crotch, and to them I ask...why should I?
lol people trippin on pixals...