Punk rockers/anarchists and Libertarians, what is the difference?

[Shadowferal]

I opposed them, just as I'm doing right now. See how that works? And yet, you guys are shitting on me for opposing them.

Opposing what? You've not listed anything but what your imagination has conjured up.

[Machismo]

Saying it on a forum isn’t actively opposing anything... I have actively shown legislative bodies I oppose this shit. You hiding on here claiming to be best doesn’t count.

And yet, look at all the corporatists shittting on me for opposing it.

Imagine that.

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Opposing what? You've not listed anything but what your imagination has conjured up.

You must have missed the links.

That makes sense.

[Machismo]

So nothing. Fun. Let’s go back to infrastructure. What do you think happens to corporate influence when they control the roads, power(like PG&E or Ercot), and water? That’s the endpoint of privatizing infrastructure. The rich buy it all and then overcharge everyone else for access so they can profit.

I'm literally opposing it right here, and you keep trying to ignore it.

For 50 fucking pages.

[Shadowferal]

So nothing. Fun. Let’s go back to infrastructure. What do you think happens to corporate influence when they control the roads, power(like PG&E or Ercot), and water? That’s the endpoint of privatizing infrastructure. The rich buy it all and then overcharge everyone else for access so they can profit.

He probably opposes this; Texas lawmakers advance big changes for ERCOT in post-Feb. 14 storm bills

[Machismo]

No, see writing “it bad” anonymously here does nothing to oppose it actively. All it is is words. Actively opposing requires some form of action making those who govern such regulations aware it’s opposed. Things like I described. The problem currently is corporate donations and PACs let those actions be drowned out by money. So, ban those and move forward. Elect quality people who will repeal the shit you never actively opposed but hate. The sooner you get involved the sooner we fix shit.

If it's nothing, then why do you give a shit about anything else I have to say,

Why are you still talking to me at all?

The fact that you are still posting to me on this very forum undermines your shitty argument.

[Machismo]

He seems to think privatizing infrastructure would end up with a bunch of little entities competing when that’s not how infrastructure works.

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Because I’m having a debate. You know I’m not a legislator right? Nobody on here is as far as I’m aware. Yelling into a pillow isn’t actively opposing ANYTHING. It’s yelling into your pillow. That’s a metaphor.

I'm not a legislator, either.

Meanwhile, I'll continue opposing all the shitty legislation being pushed by people and corporations alike.

[Machismo]

By typing that it’s bad on a forum? Thanks Scott.

You're on the same forum.

[Machismo]

Did you miss the part where I regularly demonstrate for my causes? Write to my congress members? Have had meetings with them? Fund the opposition to them? Have fun typing! I’m sure it’ll be super effective.

Do you do that to push all those shitty regulations we've been discussing?

[Machismo]

I’ve already made my positions on that shit clear multiple times. Even more so by offering a real solution going forward that you opposed. You post on mmo-champ.

Who says I don't do more?

I simply didn't state what else I do.

[Machismo]

Gave you multiple chances. You didn’t say anything you do to actively oppose it. Your rules state you don’t do anything but post here.

I'm stating I am not going to discuss what else I do. I don't much give a shit shit if you think I'm not active.

[Machismo]

Then you need to stop worrying about how people are actively opposing things they've told you they oppose and stop using general support for consumer protections as a way to claim people are against a human rights issue. So, how about privatizing all those roads and the like with zero government oversight. You get excited for $3k bills every time you have a crazy storm roll through?

Well, considering how many times you got caught lying, I have no reason to actually believe you.

Its crazy how many so-called progressives have defended corporatism and abortion restrictions.

[Ivanstone]

Why stop?

I'm pointing to regulations that you guys swear you love. You don't seem to give a shit about the actual consequences of those regulations.

You're assuming. No one's said they love these regulations.

Its been repeatedly stated one specific regulation requires Whiskey makers to be honest about their product. This is a consumer protection. If the regulation exists because of dishonest behaviour it still has no detrimental effect on the consumer.

For some bizarre reason you think this is equivalent to a small government zealot's abortion regulation. Said regulation is based on a lie and solely exists to erode the service and limit consumer choice. A reasonable person wouldn't even think they're the same.

[Machismo]

One time? Really? It's crazy how much you defend corporate feudalism in the guise of caring about the "harm" that regulations cause.

I'm not the one shilling for corporations in the list thread.

[Machismo]

You're assuming. No one's said they love these regulations.

Its been repeatedly stated one specific regulation requires Whiskey makers to be honest about their product. This is a consumer protection. If the regulation exists because of dishonest behaviour it still has no detrimental effect on the consumer.

For some bizarre reason you think this is equivalent to a small government zealot's abortion regulation. Said regulation is based on a lie and solely exists to erode the service and limit consumer choice. A reasonable person wouldn't even think they're the same.

Well, considering how you guys refuse to condemn them... that speaks volumes.

I'll show.you how easy it is. I oppose the abortion restrictions being pushed in those red states. Specifically, I oppose the ones I mentioned, even though the proponents claim it is tonprotect the patient/consumer.

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The fuck are you on about now? Where was I shilling for a corporation?

Shall I remind you about the first regulations I brought up?

[Shadowferal]

One time? Really? It's crazy how much you defend corporate feudalism in the guise of caring about the "harm" that regulations cause.

It seems "corporatist" and some myth about "abortion" has replaced nazis and the like.

[Machismo]

It seems "corporatist" and some myth about "abortion" has replaced nazis and the like.

The evidence was provided.

[Shadowferal]

I mean, it's not like I haven't literally said the opposite of what he keeps going back to. When I point it out he says, "well you called me an anarchist and a socialist, so you're a liar," it's kinda tiresome.

It's funny though. When you don't respond he'll just make shit up about you. It's a device to prod you onto engaging him.

[Machismo]

Your weird false equivalence isn't evidence. Try again.

I provided the links, and we have a half dozen dudes pushing to defend a corporation using the government to push regulations in order to help their cause.

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It's funny though. When you don't respond he'll just make shit up about you. It's a device to prod you onto engaging him.

As opposed to simply talk shit about me, because you have a man crush?

Please...

[Machismo]

The links didn't support your supposition. As has been pointed out. If you can't see the difference between them, and understand when people literally type out what they oppose, then you don't understand that there's nuance. Here, let me ask you a basic question about preventing harm. Say we live in your society where those are the only laws/regulations. Those that prevent harm. What's to prevent me from selling you a "car" that's just cardboard and doesn't actually drive anywhere?

The links included the language of the laws themselves. They defended it as consumer protections, so I used their arguments against them.

[Shadowferal]

As opposed to simply talk shit about me, because you have a man crush? Please...

Yeah, but no one has to make up anything about you. You show what you are and your trashy beliefs all by yourself.