Even in Wrath shamans could tank some of the easier raids (like VOA), so I don't doubt that they can in Classic.
Even in Wrath shamans could tank some of the easier raids (like VOA), so I don't doubt that they can in Classic.
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Oh look, a completely fallacious post.
Warriors have the most tanking tools and are the best at it, yes.
Druids have a good number of tanking tools and are solid at it.
Paladins/Shamans have some tanking tools and can do it.
Warlocks have a bit of defensive and aggro generation and can also do it.
Priests, Mages, and Rogues do NOT have tanking tools. Counterspell's threat generation is not a tanking tool. Neither is Mind Blast. Rogues have no aggro generation period and actually have built-in threat reduction - Rogues generate, what was it, 20% less threat per damage then every other class there is? Not to mention several threat-reduction tools in their kit.
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Nah, Classic+ is already ongoing. Sure, there aren't many changes now, but until we see them start to merge servers they'll likely continue to provide bug fixed and maybe even balance changes. Though I doubt there will be any "new" content.
Actually... Priests can gear and spec for tanking, as can hunters, rogues, warlocks... Just mages that dont really have any toolkit at all for it, but they can kite everything instead.
Even back in the way back days we had priests and warlocks main-tanking Onyxia, and hunters and rogues main-tanking Nefarian. They just have to commit to it fully, all manner of tanky gear and consumes and whatnot.
Just watched the video of the Shaman tanking Onyxia all i'm gonna say yeah he did it but it was a 40 man raid and look how much his low threat generation gimped the raid dps...
I meant my comment in that.
Historically we know that some areas of the game were, lacking, during 2004.
And what I meant, was that with the release of BC, they actually finally released the game in a near full feature state where nothing was left out and everything worked in its own niche.
I'm so looking forward to it. Going to roll a shaman meself.
Also, I really hope someone snatches the server code from them and makes it available so that we can continue the thing in the future.
Because for some reason I don't really trust the company in maintaining it in its state after the game has been played through its lifecycle.
As in, as you said, the classic+ stuff. I seriously hope they don't mess with any of it but I fear they will. Bug fixes are fine, but functional changes or god forbid, "new" content.
Here's to hoping to the ultimate discipline of "no content" from Blizzard.
Also give us RP servers!
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Do you really care though, when it's just a bit of innocent fun? ... for the shaman. xD
But hey, let everyone have their moment.
aggros is the only truly realistic issue with it,it can be done ofc but you arent just strugling yourself you are also hugely gimping the overall dps
i forget when it was,maybe mop or wod that shamans got a taunt in their unleash with one of the weapon enchants
Well, you Sir, are wrong. If you generate more threat than your designated tank, than you are the tank. By default. That is literally the definition of a tank. I (and I am sure a few thousands of players aswell) have seen every class pulling aggro from the "Tank" making them the tank at this specific moment. So yeah, all classes can tank - but only a few are good at it. It can't be hard to understand that making a class more viable to tanking is still worse than just picking a druid or warrior who are meant to be tanks in the game. Everything else is fun to exist, but that is about it. Shamans are not supposed to be tanks.
There's videos of Prot Paladins tanking Four Horsemen while literally clicking spells from his spellbook, dying halfway through the fight, killing the boss, and using it as an example for why Prot Paladins are actually great.
Vanilla is way too easy to have threads like this. If you have a spell that does increased threat, you can tank. Fuck, you don't even need that. Just make sure whatever you're tanking doesn't oneshot you and put the rest on healers and DPS. Your raid/group will have to fully accommodate you though, and they'd be extremely better off with a proper tank.
In TBC, I reckon we'll see a lot more stupid shit like this simply because everyone has tank gear because of arena gear. If you can reach a point where you can't be literally oneshot, you can tank.
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And by "most of ICC" which fights exactly did you tank? Let me take a guess: Ship, Lady Deathwhisper and Valithria? Oh and obviously after the 30% nerf, right?
Or by "back in the days" do you mean when Pandaria hit? There is absolutely NO WAY you tanked "most of" ICC 25 HC as a Shaman.
I've tanked with my shaman main from lvl 15 to lvl 50 in Classic as enhancement. In TBC I think it is more difficult to tank but still viable. Check Warden Shaman on Youtube, he has already tanked Nightbane as MT.