"Disaster Girl" makes $500K off her meme

[Elegiac]

It's not supposed to "stop" screenshots. That's literally not the point.

Now you can resell it if you want. Or you can own it, knowing you have the real version and, much like artwork itself, all other copies aren't worth shit and have no value.

Nobody is going to be buying "disaster girl" without proof that it's the actual NFT. If they try to buy a screenshot of it, they're a dumb as the person thinking they got a steal on a Sargent that was 1/1,000th the actual price.

Proving originality is about stopping theft of intellectual property for everyone who isn't a rich person trying to flex their clout. If the mechanism of proving originality doesn't actually stop theft, then it's a useless mechanism.

I must be missing the part where there's actually a demonstrated need for NFTs that wouldn't be covered under existing copyright law... Lol.

I buy the environmental angle, and the "scumbags are going to try to exploit this" because they are. The problem seems to be more that people are stealing and minting the art as NFT's, which is a problem with the marketplaces, not the entire concept itself. This stuck out to me though -

Like, there are a LOT of really good replicas of all kinds of art, so this argument doesn't hold much water with me.

It is kinda relevant in a discussion where the entire point of NFTs seems to be a function of proving originality.

Again, this is brand new and there's a lot of shady and quite stupid shit going on (see: Dorsey's fuckin tweet being a NFT). NFT's for existing works will be extremely challenging right now, but it's the kind of thing where for - say comissions - the artist could turn the digital art into a NFT before it's put on the internet to begin with. Doing it retroactively is...kinda hard. And doing it to things like Dorsey's first tweet is hilariously awful and stupid and bruh.

And again, I'm missing the part where this does anything new besides giving tech bros yet another instrument to speculate on.

Clearly it's not stopping art theft. Clearly it's not helping artists. It's certainly not helping the environment. So exactly what is NFT good for?

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It depends on a lot of factors and each case would probably vary quite a bit. For example, if the creator spent a lot of time creating the meme, or spent a lot of time and effot creating a work that spawned a very significant meme that the creator could generate revenue from (like the work in the OP), then the law would almost definitely favor the creator. But, that also doesn't mean a lot of effort need have been put into a work either. I'm just using that as an obvious example. The onus would be on the infringing party to prove fair use if it came to a legal battle.

[PC2]

Fuck NFT's and anyone involved with em.

Why does it bother you so much? Is this because of the environment? Conveniently owning digital things and having a digital marketplace is more important than the CO2 emissions.

[dwarven]

I'm not sure what point you're trying to make, but the copyright on the original Mona Lisa expired hundreds of years ago.

[Elegiac]

Conveniently owning digital things and having a digital marketplace

Neither of which NFTs actually furnish, so we don't actually need to choose between them and putting out emissions on par with the airline industry. Sit down.

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I'm not sure what point you're trying to make, but the copyright on the Mona Lisa expired hundreds of years ago.

The point being the relative effort between original creator and satirist isn't actually a useful metric in determining what is parody, lol.

Moreover: most people aren't making money off memes anyway, further underscoring the parodical aspects.

[Calfredd]

Why does it bother you so much? Is this because of the environment? Conveniently owning digital things and having a digital marketplace is more important than the CO2 emissions.

[Citation Needed]

[dwarven]

The point being the relative effort between original creator and satirist isn't actually a useful metric in determining what is parody, lol.

It actually is if you bother to read copyright law. A judge will 100% take into account the amount of effort put into a parody and any cultural significance it creates or does not create.

[Felya]

It actually is if you bother to read copyright law. A judge will 100% take into account the amount of effort put into a parody and any cultural significance it creates or does not create.

An NFT does not grant you any copyright.

[dwarven]

An NFT does not grant you any copyright.

No shit. We're discussing copyright in general.

[Felya]

No shit. We're discussing copyright in general.

Oh, so this is completely off topic and has nothing to do with the op? Cool...

[dwarven]

Oh, so this is completely off topic and has nothing to do with the op? Cool...

It's not entirely off topic, no.

[Egomaniac]

I did not expect this to be a controversial topic. Thought it was a funny little story about a person making some bank off of a meme she featured in as a child.

Did not expect "Fuck NFT's" to be a driving discussion point.

[Felya]

It's not entirely off topic, no.

Then please explain to me the relationship between an NFT and the copy right this girl holds on her meme.

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Did not expect "Fuck NFT's" to be a driving discussion point.

WWE included Wrestlemania 2022 tickets and one of a kind memorabilia with their Undertaker NFT... Does she get me tickets to wrestlemania? What a rip off...

[Egomaniac]

WWE included Wrestlemania 2022 tickets and one of a kind memorabilia with their Undertaker NFT... Does she get me tickets to wrestlemania? What a rip off...

i swear, all i figured was there might be some haters complaining that her family and her are "cashing in" on a meme. Maybe some offhanded comments about cryptocurrency.

[dwarven]

Then please explain to me the relationship between an NFT and the copy right this girl holds on her meme.

You aren't owed any explanation just because you didn't understand a post. But, technically her father owns the copyright because he created the work. Unless he transferred it to her. The person who bought the NFT can print it out, display it, use it as a desktop background or forum avatar, or do whatever with it as long as it's for their own personal use.

[Shadowferal]

No shit. We're discussing copyright in general.

What copyright?

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Nobody is going to be buying "disaster girl" without proof that it's the actual NFT. If they try to buy a screenshot of it, they're a dumb as the person thinking they got a steal on a Sargent that was 1/1,000th the actual price.

I find it difficult to believe anyone would buy it, period.

[dwarven]

What copyright?

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I find it difficult to believe anyone would buy it, period.

Someone did buy it for 180 ETH.

[jonnysensible]

an nft is a link on a server somewhere. you own a receipt that's it. If the link goes down and 404's you that's the end of that. its bonkers. also c02's the planet.

since someone mentioned the mona lisa...

[Shadowferal]

Someone did buy it for 180 ETH.

One born every minute...

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an nft is a link on a server somewhere. you own a receipt that's it. If the link goes down and 404's you that's the end of that. its bonkers. also c02's the planet.

And there's the thought.
Cash it in and toss the money in a bank. A real bank, not in bitsy coins we trust...honest cross our heart and oh shit...bank just ran off from Turkey...

[dwarven]

One born every minute...

It's not a dumb purchase. It will probably be worth 10x as much or more one day, being unique, and a culturally significant work from the early days of the internet. I say "early days" because the internet will still be around in 500 years and we saw the creation of it.

[jonnysensible]

It's not a dumb purchase. It will probably be worth 10x as much or more one day, being unique, and a culturally significant work from the early days of the internet. I say "early days" because the internet will still be around in 500 years and we saw the creation of it.

doubt the link will work in about 10 years.