End game world activities should be part of the base expansion

[RemasteredClassic]

On par with raids, dungeons, solo challenge modes (Torghast and brawlers guild) and PvP.

With legion I was able to level up alts to max through a variety of content, and it was actually enjoyable as a result. Not sure whether I should bother level up alts in SL anymore considering the current state of things. Thinking of unsubbing and checking out ESO Blackwood while waiting for NW and resub when I can level up in Torghast and in a new endless grinding end game zone.

[Pebrocks The Warlock]

I am pretty glad they're now thinking about Torghast 50-60 leveling. I remember before they were asked awhile ago and they said they weren't interested. Originally I was going to start leveling characters once Flying is unlocked but I think I'll wait till Torghast leveling is available.

[arkanon]

On par with raids, dungeons, solo challenge modes (Torghast and brawlers guild) and PvP.

With legion I was able to level up alts to max through a variety of content, and it was actually enjoyable as a result. Not sure whether I should bother level up alts in SL anymore considering the current state of things. Thinking of unsubbing and checking out ESO Blackwood while waiting for NW and resub when I can level up in Torghast and in a new endless grinding end game zone.

So we have chromie timewalking, normal leveling, and at max level threads of fate - which allows you to level by dungeons or WQ, and obviously you still "can" level via pvp if you wish? I dont see any issue with the current design, i think it is varied and inclusive, and extremely accessible.

[Theangryone]

That would be cool if Torghast wasn’t boring af.

[Hey There Guys its Metro]

I don't understand what you want, but if you expect them to give you Shadowlands content for free, that wont be happening.
Honestly, I have found an insane amount of value of pre 51 gameplay.
Like legit, I could easily play 40 hours a week without ever owning Shadowlands.

[Littleraven]

I've given up hope on Bllzzard making engaging content outside of mythic+ and raids. I would really love for them to stop holding everyone's hand in regards to world content. It might as well not even exist with how faceroll it is. I don't need it to be insanely difficult but at least make it so you have to think.

And I don't mean questing when leveling. I don't think it helps anyone to make that any more of a chore than people already think it is. But I would love something like Timeless Isle regularly. I loved the idea of how that zone world where the higher you went up that mountain the harder it got. Give me more of that.

I often think of what FXIV does with some of the late game content like Eureka and more recently the Bozjan Southern Front. They aren't impossible but doing some of those harder critical engagements can be fun even if you have done them over and over because there are actual mechanics to learn and do. WoW needs something like that outside of mythic+ and raids that doesn't just show up once in a while and usually near the end of the expansion.

[Aucald]

"I Quit" type threads don't tend to produce much in the way of constructive discussion or debate. Closing this.