A new vanilla start is becoming a must imho

[RemasteredClassic]

Would be really cool if they can link unique rewards you get in retail for achievements you do in classic versions. I think retail/live would best work as a collection/completionist game that should stop at the 10th expansion.

A WoW 2 then follows giving us something completely new and refreshing that is not linked to the previous 10 expansions in terms of player specific things, giving us a new vanilla experience with nothing carried over.

I used to be against this idea, but I just don’t see how WoW can survive against the competition if things continue as they are.

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it's not that hard, if they just look at my name and do what it says....plus on top of that all kinds of quality of life changes, the best of all of WoW, all in one put together on top of a remastered vanilla. They can even do a poll of all features in all of WoW history so far and include the most popular ones. Make this version of WoW, the WoW plus.....keep adding expansions to the normal WoW as usual and whatever is popular, add it to the PLUS

[Low Hanging Fruit]

I think you make this thread like... once every month..

So I will say what I say in each again. I prefer the games remain seperate.

[Icecat]

I'm pretty sure that despite everything, WoW is still beating the competition in sales. Of course, it's at the cost of quality, and at the expense of nearly every consumer. As for WoW 2, I sincerely doubt that Blizzard is even capable of making a fresh MMO title at this point.

[Myradin]

Asking for wow 2 is just asking for the death of wow. Between modern blizz, people's expectations, and the complete upheaval of losing all your stuff, there's pretty much no way WoW 2 doesn't just crash and burn after maybe a good launch due to hype.

[RemasteredClassic]

Asking for wow 2 is just asking for the death of wow. Between modern blizz, people's expectations, and the complete upheaval of losing all your stuff, there's pretty much no way WoW 2 doesn't just crash and burn after maybe a good launch due to hype.

The other option is to add on top of the current game options that would only exist in a vanilla game. Examples would be a new mount system such as combat mounts that you can only get one per toon and level and gear up, maybe a companion system to gear and level up and both of these stay permanently and not just expansion specific features.

[DeltrusDisc]

It needs to stay separate.

[RemasteredClassic]

It needs to stay separate.

Besides you’re not losing all your stuff like the other poster is saying. It’s just another WoW universe with a new fresh start that is not linked to the other ten expansions. This does not mean the other game will die instantly...it’s basically the approach overwatch2 is taking.

[LordVargK]

Okay, then you should be able to transfer account bound items from retail to classic.

Because why should classic impact retail and not the other way around?

Jokes aside, it needs to stay seperate.

[Marxman]

WoW 2 is almost certainly never going to happen. There's too much to lose and nothing really to gain.

[Raugnaut]

There needs to be permanent power boosts again, even if those boosts are entirely passive.

[javierdsv]

So imagine a day where they announce Vanilla WoW 2.0
So it's just vanilla but with better graphics, and some quality of life updates. They can then advance to TBC and so on.

It would definitely sell, and they wouldn't have to come up with anything from scratch, and they wouldn't have to design areas of the world that are not going to be used anymore.

[gaymer77]

it’s basically the approach overwatch2 is taking.

You're literally comparing a shooter style game that has an optional "story mode" to a game that is entirely an MMO with no offline/personal progress single player style mode? Really THAT is what you're going to compare it to?

[Temp name]

Besides you’re not losing all your stuff like the other poster is saying. It’s just another WoW universe with a new fresh start that is not linked to the other ten expansions. This does not mean the other game will die instantly...it’s basically the approach overwatch2 is taking.

You mean Overwatch 2, the game that is literally entirely bound to Overwatch, with crossplay between the two, and all your unlocks being carried over..?


How is that even remotely like what you've suggested

[Revamp Man]

You mean Overwatch 2, the game that is literally entirely bound to Overwatch, with crossplay between the two, and all your unlocks being carried over..?


How is that even remotely like what you've suggested

The truth is it’s not but they have to lie to them selves

[TheLucky1]

These threads are always grossly naive and wishful thinking.

I.e. you say, and i quote:"but I just don’t see how WoW can survive against the competition if things continue as they are." when they are still bringing in record numbers and day one sales.

I won't deny that the playerbase is declining overall but we are just far away with these numbers from Blizz even thinking about a new mmorpg.

[RemasteredClassic]

it's not that hard, if they just look at my name and do what it says....plus on top of that all kinds of quality of life changes, the best of all of WoW, all in one put together on top of vanilla.

[Razion]

We had attempts to "redo" the game in this kind of manner before in WoD & Legion, where the game was 'remastered' with visuals and gameplay with the racial model updates in WoD and the class revamps in Legion, with the story also getting a revamp starting from the beginning in WoD. And, granted, WoD's story reset didn't exactly pan out and the game ended up continuing on back in Retail anyway.

Throwing out everything just for the sake of a remaster is a risky gamble. There has to be more to the benefit list than "just remaster, because". Because that's subjective as hell. Like, what's the payoff here BESIDES just being a 'remaster'? Because the game already does those kinds of periodic updates again as we saw in WoD and Legion with races, story (briefly), and classes.

If you really want to radicalize WoW and champion for changes, that's fine, but it's probably best you say what it is you actually want to be different in a remaster rather than just saying to remaster for the sake of remastering. Be specific about what's wrong about retail and what you want to see changed.

[Azerate]

No, this idea sucks. Stop reposting it every week.

I used to be against this idea, but I just don’t see how WoW can survive against the competition if things continue as they are.

It can survive just fine. And "wow is dying threads" have existed since the original vanilla

[Luxeley]

Remastering and Blizzard don't go well together - just ask Warcraft III about that. A WOW II in one form or another should've been a reality a long time ago. It's just not going to happen.

[Echo of Soul]

I'm pretty sure that despite everything, WoW is still beating the competition in sales.

Yeah subscriber numbers wise it seems to be pretty equal between WoW and FFXIV but the way Blizzard monetizes their products blows every other MMORPG out of the water in terms of revenue.