KGB Hijacks Flight to Arrest Journalist.

[Shalcker]

dont think the EU fly people in and then use them as a weapon.

There are occasional accusations of NGO cooperating with traffickers. Which don't have to be proven to be "emulated".

Given previous EU decisions, neither Iraq nor Belarus are safe, thus denying asylum requests seems to go against them.

Lukashenko is desperate and detestable.

He might be detestable, but he doesn't seem to be desperate.

[Slant]

Huh, half the posters here are on my ignore list... curious.

[Shalcker]

Apparently Poles don't allow journalists into the area... guess they have something to hide.

And UK is playing up themeselves as "allies" for Poles... we know how that usually went through history.
The United Kingdom will not look away. We will stand with our allies in the region, who are on the frontier of freedom. That’s why we are proud to be the first European country to assist Poland by agreeing to send a small team of personnel to provide engineering support to ease pressure at the border.

By reports it is about 600 troops.

Hey, @jonnysensible , what do you think about that?

In Belarus, this carefully crafted crisis is an attempt to divert attention away from the litany of abhorrent acts and human rights violations that the regime has already committed. Since the fraudulent election in August 2020 we have seen members of the opposition, journalists and activists beaten, jailed and killed, while others have been forced into exile.

...reads like they are trying to divert attention from their own failures.

I want our friends across Europe to join us. That means standing together for example in opposing the construction of the Nord Stream 2 Pipeline. It risks undermining European security by allowing Russia to tighten its grip on those nations who rely on its gas, despite the pandemic reminding us about the importance of having diverse supply chains to avoid being strategically dependent on unreliable partners.

Right, of course, migrants in Belarus and NS2 are obviously linked /s

[MCMLXXXII]

There are occasional accusations of NGO cooperating with traffickers. Which don't have to be proven to be "emulated".

Given previous EU decisions, neither Iraq nor Belarus are safe, thus denying asylum requests seems to go against them.

He might be detestable, but he doesn't seem to be desperate.

You know you are comparing a leader, who uses the national airline to fly in refugees from Iraq and Syria, only to send them to neighboring countries, to NGO's? What in the hell does that have to with Europe? Or perhaps you don't know what the abbreviation NGO stands for?

[Shalcker]

You know you are comparing a leader, who uses the national airline to fly in refugees from Iraq and Syria, only to send them to neighboring countries, to NGO's? What in the hell does that have to with Europe? Or perhaps you don't know what the abbreviation NGO stands for?

Why wouldn't they be comparable? Would it be "fine" if NGO was the one doing it with tacit Lukashenko's endorsement?

You could compare it to Turkey too.

...who did pretty much exact same thing.
Got 3 billion from EU for that.
With another 3.5 billion considered this year.

[Easo]

So Lukashenko has threatened "to send migrants via planes to Europe". While flights from Belarus to EU have been blocked for like half a year now. Mother fucking genius!
/s

Oh, and EU has declared 5th wave of sanctions against Belarus. Oh silly agrofuhrer, have fun clinching money from Moscow. Again.

so he manufactures a crisis and then gives them a tent to sleep in. What a cunt.

As you can see Shalcker went full "No, it's you!". Truly ridiculous, but hey, turnips have to be earned.

[Shalcker]

As you can see Shalcker went full "No, it's you!". Truly ridiculous, but hey, turnips have to be earned.

Here is The Guardian going "No U!" on EU:
https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...-pursue-policy
However odious Lukashenko’s actions, the humanitarian disaster on the border is not the result simply of one nation’s actions. Polish forces, too, have trapped the migrants. Warsaw has imposed a state of emergency, denying migrants food, water or medical aid and refusing journalists access. New laws allow police to ignore asylum requests. Officially, eight people have died in sub-zero temperatures; the true figure is likely to be much higher.

[Fuiking]

Here is The Guardian going "No U!" on EU:
https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...-pursue-policy
However odious Lukashenko’s actions, the humanitarian disaster on the border is not the result simply of one nation’s actions. Polish forces, too, have trapped the migrants. Warsaw has imposed a state of emergency, denying migrants food, water or medical aid and refusing journalists access. New laws allow police to ignore asylum requests. Officially, eight people have died in sub-zero temperatures; the true figure is likely to be much higher.

Using a British anti-EU rag to reinforce your beliefs. Great....


Well done Sir, atleast we know where you get your rubels from.

[Shalcker]

Using a British anti-EU rag to reinforce your beliefs. Great....

The Guardian is anti-EU rag? News to me!

What exactly do you think justifies refusing journalists access from Polish side?

[jonnysensible]

The Guardian is anti-EU rag? News to me!

What exactly do you think justifies refusing journalists access from Polish side?

nothing but who cares. Potato fuhrer caused all of this. Chose to use desperate people as a weapon.

[Ihavewaffles]

nothing but who cares. Potato fuhrer caused all of this. Chose to use desperate people as a weapon.

Refering to Slavs as potatoes comes from Nazi-Germany last I checked, mods allow racist language here?

This like calling jews certain hate words and excuse with, "what? I refered to Netanyahu! Nothing to see here!"

Oddly seems like its the liberal crowd here who keep talking in this manner

[jonnysensible]

Refering to Slavs as potatoes comes from Nazi-Germany last I checked, mods allow racist language here?

This like calling jews certain hate words and excuse with, "what? I refered to Netanyahu! Nothing to see here!"

Oddly seems like its the liberal crowd here who keep talking in this manner

bro he gave putin 2 bags of potatoes as a gift and told people to go harvest in the fields as covid health advice. Got fuck all to go with Slavs.

Good effort tho. Hes becoming a liability for putin.

Havent you got conspiracy theories to post somewhere?

not a fucking liberal either buddy.

[Ihavewaffles]

bro he gave putin 2 bags of potatoes as a gift and told people to go harvest in the fields as covid health advice. Got fuck all to go with Slavs.

Good effort tho. Hes becoming a liability for putin.

Havent you got conspiracy theories to post somewhere?

That sounds like a lame ass excuse to use racist language

I don't care if Netanyahu gave u tiny giftwrapped pets, you don't get to say "cockroach rat president"

Fyi belarus lost half their population to Nazi invasion. So, ur excuse is not accepted.

[jonnysensible]

That sounds like a lame ass excuse to use racist language

I don't care if Netanyahu gave u tiny giftwrapped pets, you don't get to say "cockroach rat president"

Fyi belarus lost half their population to Nazi invasion. So, ur excuse is not accepted.

this sounds incredibly made up. (the racist language part)

What the fuck are you talking about with bibi?

Would you prefer agro-fuhrer?

Anyway looks like the security forces are pushing people at the border again and the PiS are not exactly known for thier rule of law, international diplomacy and humanitarian policies.

Its disgusting to use these desperate people like the agro- fuhrer has. More pressure has to be put on him and the UN should really get involved.

[Shalcker]

Anyway looks like the security forces are pushing people at the border again and the PiS are not exactly known for thier rule of law, international diplomacy and humanitarian policies.

Its disgusting to use these desperate people like the agro- fuhrer has. More pressure has to be put on him and the UN should really get involved.

I don't think Poland is quite ready to accept UN involvement. Especially with UK "help" already there.

What kind of involvement do you think would help anyone there?

[Ihavewaffles]

Call him agro dictator if u want, but neither potato nor fuhrer

Whether u used words intentionally knowing or not knowing belarus history, is not relevant to if you should use them..

Whoever started it, probably did know though

Oh yeah, loosing half their population is not a small part in why a country would end up with a dictator. That explains it somewhat but that doesn't mean knowing how he got there I'd want want to replace him with some western puppet, considering western track record...like Georgia's sakashvili had highest incanceration in europe, jailed his critics etc. Lost power after he bombed opposition hq
Then u have ukraine, just banned media kiyv post, silence from the west...he keeps banning media, it seems west cries freedom when its post-soviet authoritan they don't like, but when they do like one, act like nothing's happening, which just encourages more such behavior.

I want lukashenko gone, but i don't want some corrupt pro-western authoritan that cares more about his own wallet while he's enriching western fat cats n ruins his own economy.

If its between an authoritan that keeps belarus resources in belarus hands, to an authoritan that doesn't, I don't want the puppet n his pro eu buzz words.

It's a western delusion u can fast track democracy, because u need everything in place before you make decisions on a country's resources, that goes for both domestic n international greedy hands that want the whole pie, they need not to have foot in the door

[jonnysensible]

I don't think Poland is quite ready to accept UN involvement. Especially with UK "help" already there.

What kind of involvement do you think would help anyone there?

ideally pressure poland to let those people in so that they done freeze to death in the woods. And then sanction the fuck out of Belarus and put pressure on Russia to fucking deal with the cunt.

[Shalcker]

ideally pressure poland to let those people in so that they done freeze to death in the woods. And then sanction the fuck out of Belarus and put pressure on Russia to fucking deal with the cunt.

That's job for EU, not for UN. UK could also help rather then encourage them.

And EU already "sanctions the fuck out of Belarus".

And don't expect Russian ability to influence Lukashenko to be any higher then EU ability to influence Poland. You aren't going to support direct military takeover over that, right?

[jonnysensible]

That's job for EU, not for UN. UK could also help rather then encourage them.

And EU already "sanctions the fuck out of Belarus".

And don't expect Russian ability to influence Lukashenko to be any higher then EU ability to influence Poland. You aren't going to support direct military takeover over that, right?

more to do with the half a billion in loans propping lukashenko up. Russia can squeeze that beggars money.

[Shalcker]

more to do with the half a billion in loans propping lukashenko up. Russia can squeeze that beggars money.

EU can squeeze Poland just as much given how much is subsidies it. In theory.

In practice Poland can resist for much longer then this crisis is expected to last.