9.1 season 2 KSM mount, will you get it?

[Eapoe]

This is bait, right? 15s still give the highest base ilvl from completion. Unless of course you do M+ super late into the patch cycle and the base ilvl doesn't matter because your vault gear overshadows it.

14s still give the highest ilvl out of the vault, which is what I believe they are posting about. The gear from the m+ run itself can be increased up to 220 with valor, regardless of what key level you do.

[RayenDark]

I'll most likely get it passively, not a hard push. Valor upgrades will be nice for alts but given we're getting flying I don't see much appeal for the portals.

[Ealyssa]

Of course I will. M+ are fun and 15 are trivial.

[Krakan]

Eventually but I'm not going to spam mythics to target it. Would of been neat to at least swap the pve and pvp mount around or at least pick a more vibrant color swap.

[FlubberPuddy]

I'll see how harder/easier it is to get. I'll still do the 14s for the weekly cache, but i'll usually be around the 4/week mark. I don't care much for mounts and such, only for loot. The fact is that KSM is very near the 14s, so if it's not terrible i'm gonna do it. Plenty of guildies who like to push etc so i can help/join them doing the 15s.

Should be easier to get KSM this season because the season specific mechanic is similar to Nzoth m+ mechanic (kill summoned dudes) and we even get a buff for it this time.

[Temp name]

14s still give the highest ilvl out of the vault, which is what I believe they are posting about. The gear from the m+ run itself can be increased up to 220 with valor, regardless of what key level you do.

But you spend less valor upgrading a 210 item than you do a 207 item

If you care about maximizing your returns for valor investment, you should do 15s

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I'll most likely get it passively, not a hard push. Valor upgrades will be nice for alts but given we're getting flying I don't see much appeal for the portals.

Last I heard you still had to use flight paths to get into zones since they're all separate, so having a portal to each zone will mean you don't have to do that. Or you can be engineering

[Coldkil]

Should be easier to get KSM this season because the season specific mechanic is similar to Nzoth m+ mechanic (kill summoned dudes) and we even get a buff for it this time.

Yup. Even with the "you must do tyrannical keys" it shouldn't be much of an issue because you're gonna run at least 1 or 2 every week anyway for the cache, so once gear catches up, doing 14s/15s will be the norm independently from tyrnannical or fortified.

Still don't like at all that since Tyrannical is hated by neraly everyone, they made it mandatory instead of making it better. But Blizzard gonna Blizz i suppose.

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14s still give the highest ilvl out of the vault, which is what I believe they are posting about. The gear from the m+ run itself can be increased up to 220 with valor, regardless of what key level you do.

Exactly. There's no real need to run 15s - 14s are more than enough. However KSM is more useful for me due to alts. Being able to just push gear up through valor is a great way to catch up in ilvl with them. You can run 7s or 8s and not have to spend terrible amounts of points to cap that occasional BiS piece you loot.

But in 9.1 basically all strongest gear comes from raid (at least 5 pieces due to gems) so i don't know how many M+ i will run with alts since a lots of drops will just conflict with domination gear and be just useless.

[Eapoe]

You would save on the limited upgrade currency by getting the higher base ilvl by doing 15s over 14s.

? ? ?

Sure, but it’s not hard to get the valor to upgrade them. You’ll save some time, but chances are that on a bad RNG streak you’ll earn enough Valor by the time you get the drop to just upgrade it the one time that’s needed.

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Also, just to update, I saw on wowhead news that a 15 is needed to get the max reward next season. So we will have to do 15s for the vault rewards max level now anyways. Unfortunately, this means the Valor system Blizz just implemented is now pretty much worthless for anyone that runs their 15(s) for the week since you’re automatically going to be working for the max ilvl from the Vault.

[Aesahaettr]

I likely won't. But then I didn't try to get the season 1 mount either, just didn't push any keys at all, think the highest I reached was like, 12?

I didn't even run a M+ weekly.

[Eapoe]

What are you talking about? On certain pieces a single upgrade could take an entire week to farm. You do realize we aren't starting out with 5k+ valor this time, yeah? Besides the difference between a 14 and 15 is miniscule. You're just being a contrarian for no reason. There was already value in doing base 15s over 14s just to save on upgrade costs.

Wild.

I’m talking about the fact it’s not hard to farm valor, and depending on how lucky you are or aren’t, you could earn enough to more than enough while just trying to get the piece you’re looking for.
You act like every single upgrade is going to take weeks upon weeks to go up 1 ilvl upgrade, which just isn’t true.
As I’ve also stated, the Vault is now going to require a 15, minimum, to get the max level reward from it, which means you’re going to be running 15s regardless now. The only issue is if you aren’t good enough to run high level keys, and as stated, you’re probably going to earn quite a bit of valor to upgrade pieces before you even get the ones you’re ideally looking for.

[Cosmic Janitor]

I doubt it. We usually don't go out of our way to do every dungeon and we can't be arsed to do excessive reseach on the meta either, so we probably won't get it unless our keys happen to randomize in favor of it.

[Saubon]

This is bait, right? 15s still give the highest base ilvl from completion.

Not anymore, in S2 both +14 and +15 drop 236ilvl items. On the other hand, you'll get max ilvl from vault only for +15s

[schwarzkopf]

Of course I will. M+ are fun and 15 are trivial.

Well they are fun, but most certainly not trivial - by definition of the word trivial.

[schwarzkopf]

they are trivial...

NO - they are objectively non trivial - if they are trivial why are you even doing them?

[schwarzkopf]

because i pass by them when i'm on my way to higher keys...

Which literally means (apart from you being hyperbolic) you are literally saying they are NOT trivial. By the meaning of the word trivial.

[mojusk]

i plan to farm 15-16s untill i cant get any more upgrades.
from then on i plan to do at least 4 15s every week, so yea i think ill get the achievement passively sooner or later.

[Voidwielder]

I kinda want to since I haven't missed a single Curve/KSM since their introduction including CM modes but that laziness of the recolour and the insane demand for both Tyr/Fort as a healer... no, I am too old to live my life in such a stress for at least 3-4 months.

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what are you even talking about? you can be half-asleep and still time a +15... they are trivial... on my dk i can't even die in a +15... i could go without a healer if the dps can stay alive... i have done 4 dps runs with my paladin as the tank on +15...

you can wipe several times and still time +15... you can have people doing like 4k dps and still time it...

This late in the season and given how long it has lasted, sure. But not everyone wants to put in 30-40 hours of play time in to every single reset. Some want to log in, get their goals done and move on. And in that regard the first two months of a new M+ season are rough if you don't have an established team ready to go whenever.

[TBCCLOL]

No sure, all this stuff is mediocre reharsed content just to pump MAU but at the end of the day, even the teleport is really worth it? You can fly in 9.1.


CM where way better than M+ as prestige reward system

[Kaver]

The KSM mount is made as a reward for M+ players. It's not made for mount collectors.

[Ealyssa]

Well they are fun, but most certainly not trivial - by definition of the word trivial.

I rush them with 3 friends on crappy alts. Yes, by definition they are trivial. You can have 20 death and still time it, that's triviality.

People being bad at the game doesn't change the fact that +15 really aren't hard. And the reason that more people don't do it isn't even the average player level. It's the fear of failure. People just can't face failure in this game anymore it's kinda pathetic.

Try M+. Fail a few time, who care. Learn them. And at the end see how trivial they are.

That said, I admit I pretty much only play tanks. And tank are a critical role of the pacing of the dungeon. Knowing the route and adapting your pulls to your groups capacity is a key component on how well your run gonna be. So find a good tank or become one if you're asocial.