Selling Tanking Services

[Tsarez]

Don't listen to the people who say you should not sell your services, for as long as you make sure that what you sell is indeed a service.

Advertise in the LFG channel that you have pre-raid BIS and that you will pass on any loot [even if it's an upgrade]. Also go for 40g/80g/etc. because thats quite easy to split.

Remember everyone that basic farming can net you up to 400 gold per hour and this service only 80 gold if the group is quick. you are not getting rich, just covering your basic needs.

It should be self-evident that you don't charge anything if you wish to loot as well, or for heroics.

[Azsune]

Well, so I guess Alchi & Tailors should give away their CDs for free as well.

At least it is what their profession is all about.

Tanks are in very short supply, tanks have a lot harder time to farm outside of dungeons, thus why not give them the opportunity to get some gold from the lazy ass DPS players that can easily farm the costs of 3-4 runs within an hour if they wish too.

Why should anyone who plays a tank serve you as a personal puppet? Especially if they dont need the loot anymore.

Prot paladins are not bad gold farmers. They can farm 250 raw gold per hour in Strat and can sell scrolls and other shit that drop for a bit more. With price of large brils might be worth leveling enchanting if you do this farm. The scholo farm is also really good if dark runes are pricey on your server. They are also better at SM boosting than mages can pull everything including bosses and still get 5 runs per hour. Recently Arlaeus did a 300+ mara pull in 13 minutes on prot paladin in worse gear than me. All of this can be done in dungeon tanking gear and only gets easier as you get epics.

As for tanking fee that's fair. 30g is a bit cheap on Herod you would get endless spam of people willing to pay as 50g is normal rate with tank also taking loot. The other day a Paladin farming Thrallmar rep was charging hunters 50g a spot to join his group in Shattered Halls and picked up a random priest who had no clue what was going on. That's pretty much a 150g fee while he was farming rep and he was filling instantly.

[Crimson Spears]

I mean your free to but I wouldn't take some random joe and trust him not to fuck it up enough to pay him for it. I would suggest joining a guild with some clout on your server to many players in wow can't pull their own weight much less charge for it.

[Molvonos]

That just means healers should be charging these tanks twice what they want from dps.

Because you're not tanking shit without a healer.

[Bagrod]

You do what you feel is best mate. But in general, if any role suddenly starts asking for money to do shit then the game is dead imo. Imagine needing a certain role for content and everyone of that role started to ask for gold for doing it, then they are in essential holding that content hostage. But you do you man, I know repairs suck as a tank.

But this problem can be solved entirely by the community alone.

People just need to switch to playing tanks. Never ever in the history of WoW has there been a shortage of DPS classes.

To be honest, this situationw as what created the "need" for a cross realm LFD tool in wotlk, so you actually had the chance to find a dungeon as a DPS player. Nobody is holding the content hostage here. I think this is a bit over dramatic.

Also I think this is a topic mainly for PUGs. If you are in a healthy guild you will have people playing tanks that will help you out occasionally anyhow. If you want to be the lone wolf, you might need to pay up for it.

[justandulas]

That just means healers should be charging these tanks twice what they want from dps.

Because you're not tanking shit without a healer.

here's the problem with that.... healers are MUCH easier to replace than a tank. Hierarchy goes tank >>>>>>>>>>>> tanks feelings >>>> healer > dps

[Crimson Spears]

But this problem can be solved entirely by the community alone.

People just need to switch to playing tanks. Never ever in the history of WoW has there been a shortage of DPS classes.

To be honest, this situationw as what created the "need" for a cross realm LFD tool in wotlk, so you actually had the chance to find a dungeon as a DPS player. Nobody is holding the content hostage here. I think this is a bit over dramatic.

Also I think this is a topic mainly for PUGs. If you are in a healthy guild you will have people playing tanks that will help you out occasionally anyhow. If you want to be the lone wolf, you might need to pay up for it.

Problem is blizzard hates putting any kind of skill check for dps players into the game as its the derp role. Picking a good dps out from a bad one is painfully simple but its almost unheard of for a boss to have a personal dps check that wipes the group if the carried dps can't pass it.

So long as dps is the hide the derp role it will always be over populated. If you made it so it was harder to be carried as a dps then a tank or a healer you would see a sharp decrease in the population.

[Tsarez]

But this problem can be solved entirely by the community alone.

People just need to switch to playing tanks. Never ever in the history of WoW has there been a shortage of DPS classes.

To be honest, this situationw as what created the "need" for a cross realm LFD tool in wotlk, so you actually had the chance to find a dungeon as a DPS player. Nobody is holding the content hostage here. I think this is a bit over dramatic.

Also I think this is a topic mainly for PUGs. If you are in a healthy guild you will have people playing tanks that will help you out occasionally anyhow. If you want to be the lone wolf, you might need to pay up for it.

Well to be fair, even in our guild only 1 main tank managed to get to 70 quickly. Two more tanks are normally dps, the others are still leveling. Same with healers. Only two healers are main on 70, we had one shadow and one enhancer switch to heal until the others catch up.

On the flip side, we have 20+ dps sitting on 70 like ducks begging for a spot internally.

[Molvonos]

here's the problem with that.... healers are MUCH easier to replace than a tank. Hierarchy goes tank >>>>>>>>>>>> tanks feelings >>>> healer > dps

The difference, though, is you can get away with bad dps. You cant get away with a bad healer, at least not for another phase or two.

One of the 'drawbacks' to the classic experience is that you will make a name for yourself and you cant readily hide behind name changes or transmogging if you prove you're a greedy asshat.

That being said, if people are stupid enough to pay you (people with shitloads of hold definitely dont need your particular services), more power to you.

[Hellobolis]

The difference, though, is you can get away with bad dps. You cant get away with a bad healer, at least not for another phase or two.

One of the 'drawbacks' to the classic experience is that you will make a name for yourself and you cant readily hide behind name changes or transmogging if you prove you're a greedy asshat.

That being said, if people are stupid enough to pay you (people with shitloads of hold definitely dont need your particular services), more power to you.

i can just imagine the situation:

dps hires a tank and a healer for his group.

healer joins the group and demands the tank pay him on top of the money from the dps.

glorious.

[justandulas]

The difference, though, is you can get away with bad dps. You cant get away with a bad healer, at least not for another phase or two.

One of the 'drawbacks' to the classic experience is that you will make a name for yourself and you cant readily hide behind name changes or transmogging if you prove you're a greedy asshat.

That being said, if people are stupid enough to pay you (people with shitloads of hold definitely dont need your particular services), more power to you.

You can absolutely get away with a half ass healer now. and there's 101 other healers in line waiting for that spot.

Tank spots are many times more valuable than even the best healer in WoW history. There isn't a shortage of healers, there IS a huge shortage of tanks. it's simple supply and demand.

If more people tanked, this wouldnt even be a topic being discussed.

[Tenlo]

That just means healers should be charging these tanks twice what they want from dps.

Because you're not tanking shit without a healer.

Tanks and healers should team up and charge DPS players! Im kidding don't do that. Or do it idc I'm text on a screen not your mom

OT; go for it OP but just remember that if you do you're providing a service more than just tanking..if I pay you to tank you'd better know what you're doing/be geared enough. Be upfront and reasonable about it and it should be fine imo.

Don't get a big head just bc tanks are in so short supply. We're all just playing a video game here. Guess I don't really have a dog in this fight since I'm leveling a druid and pally to tank with lolol but still.

[lozza]

I get that in pre raid bis where no upgrades from dungeons can be obtained that you would feel the need to make some G tanking for Randoms, is there a reason you don't just say "Sorry I'm busy right now" to focus on profession. I play a warrior tank atm in classic bc, granted I am not pre raid bis, but if i get whispers, and there are a lot! if I'm busy I just tell them that and they either don't reply or are completely fine

[Bagrod]

Prot paladins are not bad gold farmers.

Well even more so, why should he spent time running dungeons he does not need anymore if there are more lucrative ways of making gold?

Although I have no idea if this is true for Prot Warris and Ferals tanks at the same time. Did not put too much research in these kind of topics.

On the flip side, we have 20+ dps sitting on 70 like ducks begging for a spot internally.

Well, I guess this just shows how much of a need there is for tanks then. Our guild does have 3 or 4 tanks on 70 by now. Ofc they gear a lot faster then the DPS, because they can just get instantly in the groups they want (and usually do not compete for loot).

Still, in our guild we help each other out. When the Tank was questing and needed help due to some pain in the ass mobs, I would drop by and help him kill stuff. In the same way the tanks help out if people are fresh to 70 and need to gear up / get the attunements done.

This is what was so nice about TBC. The guild really needed to take care of each other in the beginning if you bothered enough for the guild. Ofc it became a pain in the ass later on, when you had to attune newcomers.

Nevertheless, TBC is so much nicer to play with a healthy guild. Then you also do not need to care about paying tanks for PUG runs. This holds true in Retail and much more in TBC in my opinion

[Tsarez]

Well even more so, why should he spent time running dungeons he does not need anymore if there are more lucrative ways of making gold?

Although I have no idea if this is true for Prot Warris and Ferals tanks at the same time. Did not put too much research in these kind of topics.





Well, I guess this just shows how much of a need there is for tanks then. Our guild does have 3 or 4 tanks on 70 by now. Ofc they gear a lot faster then the DPS, because they can just get instantly in the groups they want (and usually do not compete for loot).

Still, in our guild we help each other out. When the Tank was questing and needed help due to some pain in the ass mobs, I would drop by and help him kill stuff. In the same way the tanks help out if people are fresh to 70 and need to gear up / get the attunements done.

This is what was so nice about TBC. The guild really needed to take care of each other in the beginning if you bothered enough for the guild. Ofc it became a pain in the ass later on, when you had to attune newcomers.

Nevertheless, TBC is so much nicer to play with a healthy guild. Then you also do not need to care about paying tanks for PUG runs. This holds true in Retail and much more in TBC in my opinion

True. The pugging situation will improve though. We're still super early into the xpac. In a few more weeks even the people who have a job, or didn't treat it seriously enough to take a vacation for it, will hit 70 and then it will be easier to find a tank.

The problem is that I can understand the DPS though. I also had to listen to complaints internally that I play a DPS and that they offered me to help me get gear etc if I just played a heal. But I don't enjoy playing one, just like I don't find any fun in being a tank.

My alt will be a disc pirest, only so that I can help out if needed... That will take a few more weeks though to hit 70 and get all the attunements done.

[justandulas]

True. The pugging situation will improve though. We're still super early into the xpac. In a few more weeks even the people who have a job, or didn't treat it seriously enough to take a vacation for it, will hit 70 and then it will be easier to find a tank.

The problem is that I can understand the DPS though. I also had to listen to complaints internally that I play a DPS and that they offered me to help me get gear etc if I just played a heal. But I don't enjoy playing one, just like I don't find any fun in being a tank.

My alt will be a disc pirest, only so that I can help out if needed... That will take a few more weeks though to hit 70 and get all the attunements done.

it's the opposite my dude, as the content ages and becomes more outdated and unnecessary, it'll be harder and harder to find tanks willing to do content they don't need without a little $ incentive.

This is how i paid for all of my raid supplies through the entirety of classic classic, and it's even more of a tank shortage in TBC meaning the gold will flow in. It will get worse, not better. Launch month is literally as good as it's going to get in regards to finding tanks

[Ealyssa]

So why not run heroics that you need and let tanks that need stuff from normals pick them up?

What game are you even playing ??? You think they are just tank laying on side unable to find a group ??? What ???

You will always have waaaaay more groups than available tanks, that's just how the game is.

[Zephire]

So I just wanted to make this post to see what the general consensus was on this... -snip-

I think it's fine for you to charge some. Maybe 30g is too much and instead lower it to 20g (5g per other person)? I've no idea what's a lot of gold etc in TBC, was a decade since I played it :P Though since you really want to help and be nice to others and be able to do it enough, money to go even sounds like your goal.

On the other hand... What I really think you should do is to level your profession and just tell those asking that you can come in X time or another day due to you needing to do something else. Value your own time.

Do you want to only do dungeons? I mean, then sure, go with the charge-payment but if you want to do other things you'd want to be okay with telling others that you're doing something else currently and they have to respect it.

I mean, a simple "Hello group! I'm spaming dungeons to help people out and it would be great if you could toss me a coin or two since my repairbills are just way to high to make even from loot alone. Thanks for considering. Anyway, let's do this! " could go a long way. You also build a reputation while tanking, if you're friendly and helpful people will be more ok with giving you some money because you're known, especially if you don't demand too much. Reputation is very important, or at least was back in vanilla/tbc (if I remember correctly) :P

[Dhrizzle]

Dps too cheap to pay me can enjoy their long hunt for another tank. Or just pay my fee and have a clean, quick efficient clear

It’s why tanks who charge, build a good reputation, never have to advertise because groups will friend us and always pay us. I can’t log in without being offered 100g for this heroic or another.

The market dictates the value of tanks is many many many many many times that of heals and dps. Especially dps.

And I did it throughout WoW classic and never heard a complaint. Pay to play

Way back in Vanilla I remember people charging 10g just to unlock UBRS with the... ring was it? Or a trinket or something...

[Speedlance]

There is a tank shortage, so there is a market. How is this any worse then seøling boosts? Lol.