Sweden's cross-wing government falls in historic first impeachment

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Would be a majority of 1 vote and that C vote is one Löven can't count on, it had voted against the government before in parliament.
Also C is rolling in the polls yet they have been pseudo supported a failing government tattooed with a big LOSER sign given recent events.

Yeah she have voted against previously, that vote wasnt as important as this one would be though. Have a hard time believing she would go against the party line now

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And more good news, Huwei wont get to participate in building the 5G network.

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Vice chairman of C has now said they wont work with V in regards of any budget so that wont happen it seem.
Good

Makes things alot more interessting. Have a hard time seeing any coalittion beeing able to form with the current strentgth of each party.

New election would be best imo

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Yeah she have voted against previously, that vote wasnt as important as this one would be though. Have a hard time believing she would go against the party line now

Was a poll presented today as well in DN.
MP and L would not make it into the parliament.
M, KD, SD 177 seats
S, V, C 172 seast

And since C is most likely to get back into the former constellation, since they give V the cold hand.
One thing is for sure though, it will be a mess however it turns out.

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Was a poll presented today as well in DN.
MP and L would not make it into the parliament.
M, KD, SD 177 seats
S, V, C 172 seast

And since C is most likely to get back into the former constellation, since they give V the cold hand.
One thing is for sure though, it will be a mess however it turns out.

Well, C wont join M/KD if they are supported by SD. Without SD that group Will never make it to power

A mess it is

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And more good news, Huwei wont get to participate in building the 5G network.

Great news for the US! A bit less for Sweden.

https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202105/1224248.shtml

"Ericsson chief worried about ‘impact’ of Sweden’s ban on Huawei"

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.the...-huawei/%3famp

But hey, keep up the good fight! *thumbsup*

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Well, C wont join M/KD if they are supported by SD. Without SD that group Will never make it to power

A mess it is

I'm not so sure of it though. There are not many similarities between C and V. Their idology is miles apart.
C got much more in common with M, L, KD and those are open to something that might hinge on SD votes in parliament when needed.

It will probably boil down to pragmatism, ironically the failed January deal was one.
If C want something done and avoid a gridlock then to me the only option is to form a coalition towards the right as they have done numerous times.

That is my take on it but again, who knows in this clusterfuck. Something very unlikely might still happen.

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I'm not so sure of it though. There are not many similarities between C and V. Their idology is miles apart.
C got much more in common with M, L, KD and those are open to something that might hinge on SD votes in parliament when needed.

It will probably boil down to pragmatism, ironically the failed January deal was one.
If C want something done and avoid a gridlock then to me the only option is to form a coalition towards the right as they have done numerous times.

That is my take on it but again, who knows in this clusterfuck. Something very unlikely might still happen.

Having Lööfs obvious hate against SD I cant see how she would be able to form a government that depends on their votes.

And be sure, SD will have several policies that they want assurances will be implemented if they are to support any group

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Great news for the US! A bit less for Sweden.

https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202105/1224248.shtml

"Ericsson chief worried about ‘impact’ of Sweden’s ban on Huawei"

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.the...-huawei/%3famp

But hey, keep up the good fight! *thumbsup*

It's a punch Sweden as well as every other country who dare say no to the communist party must absorb.
It will hurt but it's a no brainer but it's nevertheless heavily anchored within the intelligence and military as well as government and among the population.

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Having Lööfs obvious hate against SD I cant see how she would be able to form a government that depends on their votes.

And be sure, SD will have several policies that they want assurances will be implemented if they are to support any group

Sure C could keep on that track and might risk being held responsible for a gridlock in many voters view.
Will be some interesting days ahead. Because one or more party will be forced to ditch their posturing if there are to be any way out of this.

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Sure C could keep on that track and might risk being held responsible for a gridlock in many voters view.
Will be some interesting days ahead. Because one or more party will be forced to ditch their posturing if there are to be any way out of this.

Find it more likley they Will support a S-government with support by V then a M-government with support by SD.

But I agree, there will need to be compromises if any side want to rule wirh the current mandate.

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Find it more likley they Will support a S-government with support by V then a M-government with support by SD.

But I agree, there will need to be compromises if any side want to rule wirh the current mandate.

Even though Lööf haven't publicly spoken out today the C youth party(is that the word?) did and they said forming a budget that included V is out of the question.
So no V, no SD. What preasure will make them bend and if at all. And to what side.
Or point 44 could get reworked into something V could support enough not to lose face and we would could have the same government again.
The posibilities are endless lol..

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It's a punch Sweden as well as every other country who dare say no to the communist party must absorb.
It will hurt but it's a no brainer but it's nevertheless heavily anchored within the intelligence and military as well as government and among the population.

Straight from the yankee book! I thought the vikings had more balls.

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Was a poll presented today as well in DN.
MP and L would not make it into the parliament.
M, KD, SD 177 seats
S, V, C 172 seast

And since C is most likely to get back into the former constellation, since they give V the cold hand.
One thing is for sure though, it will be a mess however it turns out.

I wouldn’t count MP out because there’s people engaging in tactical voting when it comes to an actual election.

L is thoroughly fucked though without people supporting M doing the same for L.

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Even though Lööf haven't publicly spoken out today the C youth party(is that the word?) did and they said forming a budget that included V is out of the question.
So no V, no SD. What preasure will make them bend and if at all. And to what side.
Or point 44 could get reworked into something V could support enough not to lose face and we would could have the same government again.
The posibilities are endless lol..

True

Should be a fun week seeing if they can do anything or not. If not we will find out on monday, really hoping for a new election though personally

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I wouldn’t count MP out because there’s people engaging in tactical voting when it comes to an actual election.

L is thoroughly fucked though without people supporting M doing the same for L.

Very unlikley this time

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the right-wing are the less restrictive in migration policy in sweden... they just love immigrants and then use immigrants unemployment rates to argue for lowering entry requirements for jobs and for pay to be lower to justify the lower requirements... then brand you racist if you want to protect your current wages because you're oppressing the immigrants lol...

So they argue for lower paid job and easier to get a lower paid job contra letting immigrants and others spending decades if not more on welfare or payed parental leave to escalate even further?

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the right-wing are the less restrictive in migration policy in sweden... with the exception of the sweden democrats... the rest just love immigrants and then use immigrants unemployment rates to argue for lowering entry requirements for jobs and for pay to be lower to justify the lower requirements... then brand you racist if you want to protect your current wages because you're oppressing the immigrants lol...

increased pressure on the health care system as a result of the immigration policy they ran under reinfeldt's government? privatize the health care... instead of raising taxes for the rich... instead of implementing wealth tax...

Who of the Rightwing parties want to lower the salaries ?


Raising our already high tax instead of cutting cost and seems like a really bad idea, we have one of the worlds highest taxes allready while spending like we have a hidden gold mine somewhere

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the only choices isn't between lowering wages and lesser requirements or for them to be reliant on welfare... that's just bs propaganda from the right-wing...

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https://www.lo.se/start/nyheter/sa_h..._sanka_lonerna



why would anyone need as much money as the rich people have?

Having a lower wage when you are learning a new job is good, I had a low wage when i started my job as an electrician etc.

If thats your viewpoint that rich people shouldnt have money/dont need it then you are to far left to even have a discussion with

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when you have as much money as kamprad... what the fuck do you do with that money? you can't realistically spend it on yourself...

He invests it, gives out bonuses to the employees, etc etc. The amount of people that he / IKEA has employed and given an oppurtunity to make a living is rather huge.

If he has XXX millions for himself I cant really care, good for him!

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the only choices isn't between lowering wages and lesser requirements or for them to be reliant on welfare... that's just bs propaganda from the right-wing...

Yes I could not resist pulling a cheap are reply to a cheap simplification post.
However if Sweden would go the route of lower payed jobs, apprenticeship which has already been tried in countries such as Germany or Austria it would not automatically mean it will turn out worse.
Governments from both left and right contributed to this shitfest the imigration is today. And the left stubornly sitting there with much the same ideology as before doesn't help.

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bonuses... lol... that money is less than pocket change with someone with that much money...

and it's not xxx millions... it's billions... he had a wealth of 469 billion when he died... not millions, billions...

Well, he didnt need to give them bonuses, but he did anyway.

Even better if he had billions, he made the company from scratch, employed thousands throughout his years