The city of Tazavesh?

[username993720]

Tazavesh is where the Brokers live, and they apparently have needs and wants that parallel most societies (e.g. commerce, entertainment, sustenance, etc.) Oribos isn't meant to be a living space at all - and in fact, the caretakers there set up what few niceties exist purely for our benefit. They have no need for society as it were, as they are purely functionaries serving in an entirely functional space.

So, do you believe the dungeon could possibly serve as a "capital city", sort of speak?

[Skirdus]

As is usual in Shadowlands, Brokers are a rip-off of something else (Maw = Icecrown, Maldraxxus = Scourge), in this case the Brokers are a rip-off of the Ethereals. Therefore it would simply make more sense to make Ethereals playable and incorporating the new assets and aesthetic made for the Brokers into them.

If the Ethereals were to become playable they would undoubtedly join the Alliance, as the Ren'dorei are fellow mortals twisted by the Void (they even have a racial called "Etheral Affinity"), and Alleria Windrunner leader of the Ren'dorei is personally tutored by the Void Ethereal the ominous Locus-Walker.

Any playable ethereals would be neutral, like pandaren. That's literally their whole thing; being impartial to either faction.

[Varodoc]

Any playable ethereals would be neutral, like pandaren. That's literally their whole thing; being impartial to either faction.

Blizzard already said they disliked the Pandaren system and in hindsight wouldn't do it.

[Lolites]

Have you seen a capital city being given to players without their main race being playable?

well... technicaly, Zul Farak is capitol of sand trolls, Zul Aman of forest trolls, klaxives i guess is capital of mantid (with raid being palace), azjol nerub of nerubians, ahn quiraji of quiraji, nazjatar of naga, Tolvir have their "lost" city i would say, ogres have highmaul, vrykul have utgarde, arakoa have sketis, throne of thunder i gues is more a temple complex than a city to mogu, but the two hubs we use are (together with palace) something like a former capital...

but i agree most are not really as impresive as Tazavesh (ogres and nerubians being on top imo)

[Aucald]

So, do you believe the dungeon could possibly serve as a "capital city", sort of speak?

It's possible, sure. The Brokers would be an interesting and difficult to implement playable/allied race as they are - but not impossible I would say. I also imagine they have other settlements throughout the In-Between in the Shadowlands, though perhaps not of the same size or importance as Tazavesh. It seems likely that each of the cartels probably has a stronghold of its own within the In-Between.

[username993720]

Any playable ethereals would be neutral, like pandaren. That's literally their whole thing; being impartial to either faction.

So were the Goblins. Yet, they still ended up allying with the Horde. I guess it depends on what cartel they would be. For now, Void Ethereals are allied with the Alliance Void elves.

well... technicaly, Zul Farak is capitol of sand trolls, Zul Aman of forest trolls, klaxives i guess is capital of mantid (with raid being palace), azjol nerub of nerubians, ahn quiraji of quiraji, nazjatar of naga, Tolvir have their "lost" city i would say, ogres have highmaul, vrykul have utgarde, arakoa have sketis, throne of thunder i gues is more a temple complex than a city to mogu, but the two hubs we use are (together with palace) something like a former capital...

but i agree most are not really as impresive as Tazavesh (ogres and nerubians being on top imo)

Non of them are playable capital cities. Meaning, you can't just casually stroll along their streets unharmed. They are not part of the factions.

It seems likely that each of the cartels probably has a stronghold of its own within the In-Between.

That's a lot of strongholds.
Known cartels
Cartel Al
Cartel Au
Cartel Ba
Cartel By
Cartel Ko
Cartel Ku
Cartel So
Cartel Ta
Cartel Ve
Cartel Xy
Cartel Zo

What cartel does Tazavesh belong to?
I don't believe they would have that much.

[FelPlague]

Lot of brand new assetts for “just” a dungeon, you might be onto something although I am not sure if it would be used as a capital city.

Mechagon had a ton of new assets and it was "just a dungeon" yes they got an allied race, but mechagon is not a city they can hang out in.

[Aucald]

So were the Goblins. Yet, they still ended up allying with the Horde. I guess it depends on what cartel they would be. For now, Void Ethereals are allied with the Alliance Void elves.



Non of them are playable capital cities. Meaning, you can't just casually stroll along their streets unharmed. They are not part of the factions.



That's a lot of strongholds.
Known cartels
Cartel Al
Cartel Au
Cartel Ba
Cartel By
Cartel Ko
Cartel Ku
Cartel So
Cartel Ta
Cartel Ve
Cartel Xy
Cartel Zo

What cartel does Tazavesh belong to?
I don't believe they would have that much.

Tazavesh seems to be shared amongst the various cartels. Various NPC's are marked as Tazavesh citizens with tags denoting cartels like Xy, Ta, and So. I would imagine they're all there, though; or at least several are.

[Lolites]

Non of them are playable capital cities. Meaning, you can't just casually stroll along their streets unharmed. They are not part of the factions.

and exactly the same is true for Tazavesh...

[username993720]

Mechagon had a ton of new assets and it was "just a dungeon" yes they got an allied race, but mechagon is not a city they can hang out in.

It is listed as their capital city.

Tazavesh seems to be shared amongst the various cartels. Various NPC's are marked as Tazavesh citizens with tags denoting cartels like Xy, Ta, and So. I would imagine they're all there, though; or at least several are.

Would seem like a fine place for a Broker race.

and exactly the same is true for Tazavesh...

Until they are added?

[Lolites]

Until they are added?

and that is again true for all i mentioned...

[username993720]

and that is again true for all i mentioned...

Starting zones, or a race's capital, are usually safe. Especially if you can set your Hearthstone there.

[Lolites]

Starting zones, or a race's capital, are usually safe.

and Tazavesh is not, very much like the rest of the mentioned... i literaly lost the track of what the hell you are talking about...

Tazavesh vs. Highmaul, tell me reasons why you think Tazavesh can be capital and brokers new race and Highmaul with ogres cant

[shoc]

I would 100000000% be for Jailer fucking nuking Oribos and we have to refugee it in the new Shadowlands capital hub of Tazavesh instead.

[username993720]

and Tazavesh is not

Currently...

Tazavesh vs. Highmaul, tell me reasons why you think Tazavesh can be capital and brokers new race and Highmaul with ogres cant

Never said it can't.

[Soon-TM]

How would they make most armor work on them exactly?

Especially helms lol

[Aucald]

How would they make most armor work on them exactly?

That would be difficult. For their leg and boot slots, I would imagine you could do something similar to Worgen and Forsaken and have it texture the strange "sleds" they use for legs with the end being capped in a texture like a bootie. Some footwear would probably be omitted entirely, of course. Helms would be more difficult, but you could have their mask-like face omitted and just show the flame within the helm's confines, or have the flame projected around the helm and the face projected forward a bit. Or you could have them a special case where boots, legs, and/or helms are just entirely omitted, providing extra options for customization like mask types, flame colors, and leg designs or shapes.

[Ivarr]

I'm speculating Tazavesh was supposed to be the original SL capital but Blizzard ran into time constraints so instead we got Oribos and they worked Tazavesh into an Instance.

The broker people may still end up as an allied race, for both factions, like Pandarens, and then get the instance as a capital.

I would 100000000% be for Jailer fucking nuking Oribos and we have to refugee it in the new Shadowlands capital hub of Tazavesh instead.

That would be such a bold move. They did this with the Peak of Serenity into the Monk Order Hall but this would impact way more players.

I love it.

That would be difficult. For their leg and boot slots, I would imagine you could do something similar to Worgen and Forsaken and have it texture the strange "sleds" they use for legs with the end being capped in a texture like a bootie.

The Mechagnomes don't display legs, feet and robes are turned into a short-sleeved shirt. Players who play Mechagnomes know full well that half their gear won't be shown. It is what it is.

[Lolites]

Never said it can't.

true, you said

Have you seen a capital city being given to players without their main race being playable?

on which i responded to list of capitals without race being playable, and you responded with moving the goalpost to push the idea brokers are more likely to be playable than any other of those race... i mean some of them (nerubian, quiraji...) are very unlikely but still, some are likely, i would say quite a few more likely than brokers...

[shoc]

I'm speculating Tazavesh was supposed to be the original SL capital but Blizzard ran into time constraints so instead we got Oribos and they worked Tazavesh into an Instance.

The broker people may still end up as an allied race, for both factions, like Pandarens, and then get the instance as a capital.



That would be such a bold move. They did this with the Peak of Serenity into the Monk Order Hall but this would impact way more players.

I love it.

What grinds my gears the most about Tazavesh, is that it totally could have been a zone. Not just a dungeon. It should have been anchored to Korthia, and been part of the rest of the 9.1 content. Why wouldn't the Jailer make a power move against the Brokers? Then by Patch 9.4 when they inevitably add Covenant Races as Allied Races we could have the Brokers as a 5th Neutral AR along with everyone else, I'd rather have them than Ethereals.