FFXIV Spoiler thread

[Auxis]

I've been thinking and wondering this lately:

Is there any link between the Job stones and the Convocation stones?
It seems strangely coincidental that they are so similar (stones of varying colour, each with a symbol on them (constellations on the Convocation, job icons on the Job). Is it just a fun refernce, because the Convocation positions are techincally "jobs"?

[Val the Moofia Boss]

Elder Lahabrea looking good.

[Val the Moofia Boss]

Finally, a brand new party member.

[grandgato]

Looks great. I never get tired of the music from FF4!

Also looks like they confirmed Scarmiglione as the new trial boss.

[Yarathir]

I've been thinking and wondering this lately:

Is there any link between the Job stones and the Convocation stones?
It seems strangely coincidental that they are so similar (stones of varying colour, each with a symbol on them (constellations on the Convocation, job icons on the Job). Is it just a fun refernce, because the Convocation positions are techincally "jobs"?

Well, far as I know, job stones impart knowledge, as do the constellation crystals. So the job crystals may have been born from that idea in the past.

[Cthulhu 2020]

I love how SE can take old models, and change them in such a way that the mount looks way better than just a simple reskin of another mount.

Data mined stuff, but the savage mount is AMAZING.

[Val the Moofia Boss]

I love how SE can take old models, and change them in such a way that the mount looks way better than just a simple reskin of another mount.

Data mined stuff, but the savage mount is AMAZING.

The transform feature is cool.

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servers are up

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Did MSQ up to trial. Need to grind another 9 ilevels to do it.

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MSQ thoughts up to the trial:

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This is the second time we have had a cutscene showing transportation between shards. The first time, at the start of ShB, it seemed that the other crystals weren't other worlds, but were showing memories of the WoL's past, but that doesn't happen here. When the WoL enters the dark-red crystal (the Void Shard?), it appears that there were several dozen other crystals in the space as well, way more than 14. Where do those other crystals lead to? Other worlds beyond Etheirys? Alternate timelines?




Zero conjures a magic circle to double jump/alter her velocity. Can any Reaper do this? Or is this a technique only Zero knows? If any Reaper could do it, then damn, the Garleans could have created a small Reaper corps and they would have absolutely shredded any opposition, being too fast to hit.




The exterior environments of Troia castle and the terrace were pretty gorgeous.

Really liking being able to actually talk to the Voidsent and see what their society is like. Wish there was more.




So here, people can shape reality by thinking about it? If so, then can our heroes think up an imaginary airship to transport them? Or an aether radar to track where the most powerful/densest beings are, which would either be the archfiends or the dragon?

I also like that Zero has her own self-interests and doesn't immediately join the party to go heroing. Wonder if she will pledge allegiance to Golbez and try to eat Azdaja and become a boss. On the other hand, given FFXIV's writing tendencies she will more than likely survive and just become the lord of the underworld by the end of this storyline.




Again, can't we "think" up an aether radar or something?

[eschatological]

I'm never a huge fan of exposition via crystal vision, but alas, here we are again.

[Val the Moofia Boss]

Finished my grinding. MSQ ending thoughts:

Spoiler: 

Golbez slew an Ancient Amaurotine. What? Is he somehow a fourth Unsundered? Or was that a post-sundering Ascian he slew, but for some reason wearing an Ancient garb rather than an Ascian garb? The white coloration of the robe suggests that it is Elidibus, the post-sundering Elidibus we saw donned Ascian robes with white coloration, not the basic Ancient Amaurotine robes. Hm...

[Cthulhu 2020]

Finished my grinding. MSQ ending thoughts:

Spoiler: 

Golbez slew an Ancient Amaurotine. What? Is he somehow a fourth Unsundered? Or was that a post-sundering Ascian he slew, but for some reason wearing an Ancient garb rather than an Ascian garb? The white coloration of the robe suggests that it is Elidibus, the post-sundering Elidibus we saw donned Ascian robes with white coloration, not the basic Ancient Amaurotine robes. Hm...

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I mean, if you kept up with things you'll remember the 13th was the Ascian's first attempt at rejoining and they failed because they pushed the balance towards dark too quickly and ended up ruining the world rather than rejoining it. They abandoned it, considering it a failure.

Each of the convocation was assigned a shard. If you look at the lighting in the picture it's obviously coming from the left, even Golbez's armor is more lit in the left. So with a sepia filter it's not a stretch to just say it could be a dark robe. But we also know the white robes serve as impartial advisers for the convocation, so it wouldn't be a stretch if more of the convocation had them than just Elidibus. But it's clear that after the world was ruined, Golbez slew the ascian in charge of it and started his crusade.

As for island sanctuary, I like it overall, but I think the use of mammet NPCs is a huge wasted potential. I feel like they could have let us recruit random NPCs in a similar fashion to our squadrons. You know, we're settling on a new island. Starting a manufacturing business on it, and we're using... mammets. Could have been great to recruit Ala Mhigo refugees or doman refugees or just random NPCs, but guess we're working with mammets for this whole thing.

[Myradin]

Finished my grinding. MSQ ending thoughts:

Spoiler: 

Golbez slew an Ancient Amaurotine. What? Is he somehow a fourth Unsundered? Or was that a post-sundering Ascian he slew, but for some reason wearing an Ancient garb rather than an Ascian garb? The white coloration of the robe suggests that it is Elidibus, the post-sundering Elidibus we saw donned Ascian robes with white coloration, not the basic Ancient Amaurotine robes. Hm...

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Its possible the ascians didn't adopt their edgier robes till later. The 13th was pretty early in their schemes.

[Aucald]

Spoiler: 

Golbez slew an Ancient Amaurotine. What? Is he somehow a fourth Unsundered? Or was that a post-sundering Ascian he slew, but for some reason wearing an Ancient garb rather than an Ascian garb? The white coloration of the robe suggests that it is Elidibus, the post-sundering Elidibus we saw donned Ascian robes with white coloration, not the basic Ancient Amaurotine robes. Hm..

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In order for the 13th to have come into existence, wouldn't the ancient Amaurotines already have been sundered?

[Myradin]

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In order for the 13th to have come into existence, wouldn't the ancient Amaurotines already have been sundered?

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Sure, but did the sundering immediately give Amaurotines instantly a new fashion sense?

[Aucald]

Spoiler: 

Sure, but did the sundering immediately give Amaurotines instantly a new fashion sense?

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Instantly, probably not. But I imagine there was a significant chunk of time before the Amaurotines could recover from the chaos of their end times before they could even begin to put together a plan of the scale like rejoining the other shards and so forth. Plenty of time for their sartorial style to change into something else, I guess.

[Yarathir]

Spoiler: 

Its possible the ascians didn't adopt their edgier robes till later. The 13th was pretty early in their schemes.

Spoiler: 

This. It was the first shard they worked on. It was the result their machinations had on the Thirteenth that led them to revise their plans and formulate a safer way (comical, considering calamities are required) of bringing about a rejoining.

[Cthulhu 2020]

Spoiler: 

This. It was the first shard they worked on. It was the result their machinations had on the Thirteenth that led them to revise their plans and formulate a safer way (comical, considering calamities are required) of bringing about a rejoining.

Not so much safer as more reliable.

[Auxis]

Going through the patch MSQ for Shadowbringers, just did the quest where you go into the new section of the Ronkan ruins with Y'shtola and the 3 Viis sisters.
One thing that the construct in the ruins said stuck out to me:

Huaca: Indeed, the dread serpent turned protector, lured to slumber ere it tear the world asunder.

Is this one of those lines that sounds oddly important to the story but isn't at all; or is it refering to something?
Zodiark is associated with Ophiuchus in FFXII, but there is a separate constellation near Ophiuchus for the Serpent itself (Serpens I think).

The obvious argument would be that it is referring to Zodiark, if anything at all - he was put to "sleep". But he wasn't threatening to tearing the world to sunder - he was infact holding it together through his Laws - unless it's referring to his constant sacrificial requirements tearing the population apart.
But what if we look at Zodiark as being Ophiuchus who is bearing the Serpent - was he "bearing" the serpent that we've heard about from the Golden Dhyata? The calamitous events that Zodiark fixed was him putting it to sleep?

[Val the Moofia Boss]

Going through the patch MSQ for Shadowbringers, just did the quest where you go into the new section of the Ronkan ruins with Y'shtola and the 3 Viis sisters.
One thing that the construct in the ruins said stuck out to me:

Huaca: Indeed, the dread serpent turned protector, lured to slumber ere it tear the world asunder.

It's a nod to the Qiqirn beast tribe questline. It refers to the "Great Serpent of Ronka", but the joke is that it's actually just a tiny critter called Scree, and is obtainable as a minion.


The Great Serpent of Ronka.

[Auxis]

It's a nod to the Qiqirn beast tribe questline. It refers to the "Great Serpent of Ronka", but the joke is that it's actually just a tiny critter called Scree, and is obtainable as a minion.


The Great Serpent of Ronka.

Terrifying and cute to boot.

[ippollite]

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