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    Quote Originally Posted by Endus View Post
    If it were a human being, that wouldn't justify forcing pregnancy to continue. You can't force someone to donate blood or an organ, or to be hooked up as a human dialysis machine or something. That's the right to control the use of your own body, and it supercedes any right to life by any other human being. So even if you were right about it being a baby, you'd still be wrong about opposing abortion rights for women.

    Of course, you're wrong about that, to boot, which makes the entire point moot. But it bears pointing out that even if you were right on this point, you'd still be egregiously, inhumanely, misogynistically wrong.

    Stop pushing religious extremism.
    they consented to vaginal sex, therefore they consented to pregnancy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by docterfreeze View Post
    they consented to vaginal sex, therefore they consented to pregnancy.
    Not like rape or incest are a thing, no sir.

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    Quote Originally Posted by docterfreeze View Post
    they consented to vaginal sex, therefore they consented to pregnancy.
    Where do you live that you believe this is true?

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    Quote Originally Posted by docterfreeze View Post
    they consented to vaginal sex, therefore they consented to pregnancy.
    better make the dad cough up child support then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnBrown1917 View Post
    Not like rape or incest are a thing, no sir.
    already talked about rape

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    Quote Originally Posted by uuuhname View Post
    better make the dad cough up child support then.
    how about we go one step further and keep the family together

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    Quote Originally Posted by docterfreeze View Post
    how about we go one step further and keep the family together
    LMAO ok there Mr. shotgun minister. nothing better than a loveless marriage to give the child as terrible a childhood as possible to keep up standards you probably never hold yourself to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by docterfreeze View Post
    they consented to vaginal sex, therefore they consented to pregnancy.
    Just because you consent to one thing does not mean you consent to the possible outcomes of said thing.
    It would be like "you consented to go hunting, therefore you consented to being shot while hunting."

    If you go hunting with someone, you understand the risk is that you could be shot by the other person on accident (even potentially on purpose), but no one who blame a person who sued in this case for damages just because "They consented to go hunting."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darththeo View Post
    Just because you consent to one thing does not mean you consent to the possible outcomes of said thing.
    It would be like "you consented to go hunting, therefore you consented to being shot while hunting."

    If you go hunting with someone, you understand the risk is that you could be shot by the other person on accident (even potentially on purpose), but no one who blame a person who sued in this case for damages just because "They consented to go hunting."
    except pregnancy naturally follows vaginal sex. your analogy should be "you consented to go hunting, so you consented to kill an animal"

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    Quote Originally Posted by docterfreeze View Post
    already talked about rape - - - Updated - - - how about we go one step further and keep the family together
    Incest is best, keep family together?

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    Quote Originally Posted by docterfreeze View Post
    already talked about rape

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    Yeah, you want to force rape or incest victims to be forced to give birth, does not matter its a 11 year old girl or anything to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowferal View Post
    Incest is best, keep family together?
    Something something Alabama.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowferal View Post
    Incest is best, keep family together?
    are you ok?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnBrown1917 View Post
    Yeah, you want to force rape or incest victims to be forced to give birth, does not matter its a 11 year old girl or anything to you.
    nope go back and read

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    Quote Originally Posted by docterfreeze View Post
    are you ok?
    Dad has got to take care of his daugther-granddaugther somehow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by docterfreeze View Post
    except pregnancy naturally follows vaginal sex. your analogy should be "you consented to go hunting, so you consented to kill an animal"
    So does getting shot while hunting.

    Sorry, still wrong.
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    The "pro-life" movement has never been about anything more than controlling and dominating women. The neo-con religious right that pushes the anti-women (aka "pro-life") rhetoric is so inconsistent regarding "life" it's laughable.

    That being said, because of Trump/McConnell we'll see Roe fall in the next couple of years, leaving it up to state's rights to grant or ban abortion. Given the red-state ratio in the United States, we should therefore expect draconian laws going into force limiting or outright banning abortion in all forms, including rape/incest/health-of-the-mother - the list goes on.

    At that point the United States essentially becomes a faux failed state. No healthcare, no women's rights, crushing debt for education - the only thing keeping us afloat and above will be the dream we once had and our military.

    This has never been more true than now:



    And it's just going to get worse. We still have Trump wanting to run in 2024 and we'll probably lose the House and Senate in 2022.

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    Quote Originally Posted by docterfreeze View Post
    how about we go one step further and keep the family together
    One glance at the U.S. divorce rate makes that statement laughably laughable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by docterfreeze View Post
    nope go back and read
    Nah, you think its normal to find out you're pregnant before 6 weeks.. which gets even harder for victims of abuse.

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    Solugen Inc. plans to double its R&D team over the next two years, with the company eyeing Massachusetts and California for the new facility because of Texas anti-abortion law.

    Solugen Inc., a Texas chemicals company, said it plans to open a new research and development facility outside of the state because its social policies are making it difficult to recruit employees.


    Likely won't be the last.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Belize View Post
    One glance at the U.S. divorce rate makes that statement laughably laughable.
    no we should ban divorce, that'll solve society's problems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uuuhname View Post
    no we should ban divorce, that'll solve society's problems.
    And force girls to marry their rapists.

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    are you ok? - - - Updated - - - nope go back and read
    Your perspective is at least a century old...don't you think it's time to move on?

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