So Theo just launched and left this, as usual? Awesome.
She swung way too hard with this one.
If she made it about Newsom specifically she might have actually landed a hit for once... but she tripped over her own feet with her attempt to frame this as "This is how all democrats are" and her weird attempt to draw a paralell between this and mail-in ballots.
I want to make sure I got this right....
- A Dem governor, in the most Dem state, does something that isn't liberal thereby showing once again that American liberals are more center or right center which destroys the Republican accusations of Dems being far left.
- Then on top of it, Dems can say they don't agree with him on that measure, thereby destroying the other Republican accusations that Dems are all sycophants that agree with anything a Dem says.
And in light of all that, this thread was supposed to be a pwn of Dems...because......why again?
"When Facism comes to America, it will be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross." - Unknown
So, here's how someone can defend this.
I looked up more info on it, and it looks like the reason for the veto primarily revolves around the fact that the bill eliminates the secret ballot part of the process, allowing for a scenario where union proponents can hand a person a ballot card and ask them to sign it in their presence. The concern is that this would allow for intimidation and strongarm tactics on anyone who didn't want to.
I can actually kinda see why that wouldn't be a good thing for a fair and legitimate voting system.
I did not bother checking why Newson vetoed the bill. However, I knew Newsom was not going to vote against the interest of his biggest supporters. The various California unions went all out to campaign for him during the recall election. Union members were doing door-to-door campaign for him.
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- Christopher HitchensPopulists (and "national socialists") look at the supposedly secret deals that run the world "behind the scenes". Child's play. Except that childishness is sinister in adults.
Gov. Gavin Newsom on Wednesday vetoed a bill that would have allowed farm workers to vote by mail in union elections, a change the United Farm Workers pressed for after the U.S. Supreme Court earlier this year dealt a setback to its organizing practices.
Assembly Bill 616 would have allowed agricultural workers to select their collective bargaining representative through a ballot card election by voting at a physical location or mail or dropping off a ballot to the Agricultural Labor Relations Board office.
The UFW, which supported Newsom over the past several months has fought the campaign to recall him from office, had been planning a 260-mile march this week from Tulare County to Sacramento to advocate for the bill. The march commemorates the 1968 march labor icon Cesar Chavez carried to highlight the plight of farm workers at that time.
Instead, UFW issued a statement over Twitter saying it would redirect the march to the French Laundry restaurant in Napa County, a reference to the pricey meal Newsom had with lobbyists as he asked other Californians to avoid mixed groups and indoor settings during the coronavirus pandemic.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/ca...ill/ar-AAOJbwn
I don't much care for Republican talking points when it comes to labor law. They wanted to be able to vote by mail (kind of like Newsom when it's convenient for him), which really should be up to the union and it's members, not a capitalist favoring government.
- Christopher HitchensPopulists (and "national socialists") look at the supposedly secret deals that run the world "behind the scenes". Child's play. Except that childishness is sinister in adults.
No, I don't think it's important to take Republican's fake concern over worker's rights seriously when they consistently take the side of the capital on every issue. Their entire goal is to make organizing as ineffective as possible and presenting unions as corrupt bureaucrats who are out to bully workers is their favorite way of doing so. I've seen this act before and it's not hard to see through it.
- Christopher HitchensPopulists (and "national socialists") look at the supposedly secret deals that run the world "behind the scenes". Child's play. Except that childishness is sinister in adults.
My original point was that you are ignoring the secret ballot removal, which is a big deal, thats a clear intimidation tactic trying to push for that, so I don't think its as simple as "they got fucked over" so much as the bill was designed to either fail or fuck them over in the first place.
- Christopher HitchensPopulists (and "national socialists") look at the supposedly secret deals that run the world "behind the scenes". Child's play. Except that childishness is sinister in adults.