Blizzard to Old Fanbase: Go Away

[Shadowferal]

If removing paintings and emotes that you wouldn't even have realized were removed if it didn't show up on wowhead are enough for you to quit the game then please: Leave. Nobody will miss you.

I'm sure those that have already /ragequit would appreciate the sentiment that blizz should have less paying customers.

[DeltrusDisc]

honestly if you think that the changing of some npc names and the altering/removal of some emotes is Blizzard telling its entire aging playerbase to fuck off then you're just part of the problem. While some of the changes I think are stupid and unnecessary I am fine with the majority of them. Even for the changes I think are stupid I accept that there is an extremely high likelihood that the people directly named in the lawsuit or people who probably should've been named in the lawsuit were responsible for some of those name choices. All while giggling like an idiot and deflecting any criticism that it was sexist because "it's just a joke" which is the exact attitude that led to the lawsuit and these changes in the first place

A character name or mount name in-game does not make people grope others at work.

[Relapses]

I'm sure those that have already /ragequit would appreciate the sentiment that blizz should have less paying customers.

Your money is worthless if you value anti-SJW sentiments above what the developers feel comfortable with being in the game.

[Shadowferal]

Your money is worthless if you value anti-SJW sentiments above what the developers feel comfortable with being in the game.

You're cute. How long have been playing?

[Relapses]

You're cute. How long have been playing?

What is the relevance of that question? You can see my registration date and I was playing about a year before that.

[Shadowferal]

What is the relevance of that question? You can see my registration date and I was playing about a year before that.

And in all that time you've known about these little in-game jokes...and we both know you never complained.

[Relapses]

And in all that time you've known about these little in-game jokes...and we both know you never complained.

Brother, this ain't about me or what the fuck I care about. It's about the developers and what they're comfortable with.

[Shadowferal]

Brother, this ain't about me or what the fuck I care about. It's about the developers and what they're comfortable with.

It means you supported the game...and the developers at a time when you shouldn't have. So don't imagine that high horse you're on is anything than a shiny new mount.

...fucking hypocrites...

[rhorle]

It means you supported the game...and the developers at a time when you shouldn't have. So don't imagine that high horse you're on is anything than a shiny new mount.

You are devoting a lot of time talking about something that you claim no one should devote time to if they are not happy with the developers.

[Shadowferal]

You are devoting a lot of time talking about something that you claim no one should devote time to if they are not happy with the developers.

I've already quit because I'm displeased. Maybe others should join this crusade?

[rhorle]

I've already quit because I'm displeased. Maybe others should join this crusade?

You didn't quit WoW you just quit playing. An example of that is set by the many forum lurkers here who devote time to things they don't like.

[MrLachyG]

A character name or mount name in-game does not make people grope others at work.

Never said it did

[Relapses]

It means you supported the game...and the developers at a time when you shouldn't have. So don't imagine that high horse you're on is anything than a shiny new mount.

...fucking hypocrites...

What the fuck? Current developers change things that old developers didn't find offensive therefore because I played the game in the past I support only the old developers' decisions? This take is so completely devoid of anything resembling logic that I have a hard time believing you actually feel this way.

[Varitok]

I generally don't care about the changes at all, Old jokes are whatever. It's what was removed in general. A masturbation joke, a fart in the tub joke, a dwarf saying she has strong thighs. It's all beyond the point of cleaning up, it is puritanism regardless of the mental gymnastics people play to say otherwise and now that kind of writing will purvey through all the story telling elements.

It has nothing to do with them feeling "safe". It's them removing things they find icky or personally unsavory. This is the writing team working for WoW now and it will only get worse as time goes on as that kind of puritan sentiment starts to pervade actual game story.

[joeymagz]

I generally don't care about the changes at all, Old jokes are whatever. It's what was removed in general. A masturbation joke, a fart in the tub joke, a dwarf saying she has strong thighs. It's all beyond the point of cleaning up, it is puritanism regardless of the mental gymnastics people play to say otherwise and now that kind of writing will purvey through all the story telling elements.

It has nothing to do with them feeling "safe". It's them removing things they find icky or personally unsavory. This is the writing team working for WoW now and it will only get worse as time goes on as that kind of puritan sentiment starts to pervade actual game story.

To be fair, there's a few active investigations going on by government entities that I'm positive are not gamers, and I'm sure they find everything in the gamer world, "distasteful." That's the reason for the changes, imo.

The real problem are the people here ignoring the fact that the game has 1M or less subscribers now, and has has bled almost 60% of the playerbase since Shadowlands launched. How the heck can they try to argue that the game is bringing in new players when it can barely hold onto the players that it has? lol. I'm glad that people still enjoy the game, I wish I did. I enjoyed the shit out of this game since 2009, and I don't regret any of the time I spent in WoW. I just cancelled my sub last month, and I don't think I'll be back unless there's some massive changes in the dev team. I can't continue to play a game when the modern gameplay loop is chores. I pay to play games to avoid life, not to do chores.

[Dacia Ultan]

To be fair, there's a few active investigations going on by government entities that I'm positive are not gamers, and I'm sure they find everything in the gamer world, "distasteful." That's the reason for the changes, imo.

Some shit was removed for creeping out the devs (although I laugh at the people whining about "puritanism" and wonder how they reacted to a certain minor scandal during BlizzCon right before Wrath, because that was also a shitshow of reactionary tears). I suspect that some other shit may have been deemed dated or just too stupid (like the "shout-out to my boys in Gnomeregan" joke, although damned if I can guess why the tauren one about leather was removed even with those potential provisos). That said: the admission that things were removed for creeping out the devs seems to have been specifically about the incubi and altered background details; there seems to have been something of a time gap between that and it getting out that the emotes, etc. had been removed.

[Kokolums]

Most companies start out small and hardcore and trying to keep it real. When they become giant companies, the temptation to sell out is overwhelming. ESPN for example is a sellout because it focuses on gossip now. Yesterday was a big sports day with 2 playoff baseball games and an NFL game between Rams and Seahawks. What does ESPN talk about? Bears coach Matt Nagy and that they dislike him because he lacks “podium presence” during pressers. Its just about gossip now to ESPN. for Blizzard, they sold out and no longer cater to gamers. Their new focus is shareholders. They are big into adding minigames to wow like its a phone game. They refuse to remove that damn mission table. They add more stuff that would probably work with a phone port. Its just bad.

[willkaren]

you mean the echo chamber of hiring former Bush White house advisors? ones who should be brought up on crimes against humanity?

[DesoPL]

They don't need tell me that twice... They brought game to place, where instead of fun i feel it is work. Doing everyday emisaries, only to gain gold, to continue playing? Where i have fun with that? Myself i can only buy gametime by gold, and currently in EU is 300K gold, so yeah i'm done. A bit sad, because i loved do some RP walking in Stormwind or Orgrimmar, avoiding Pornshire, do some old content for transmogs and stuff.

I don't even bother myself about censorship in game. But i find it hilarious, that they doing it now.

[Accendor]

What else is the metric when talking about "Go woke or go broke"? Money is literally in the phrase.

Isn't it "go woke, go broke"?

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Depends on the grind and what the rewards are. I suspect the TBC grinds for Netherray and Talbuk might have taken about that length of time as did the Felcloth grind in Vanilla for my Robe of the Void but I don't think I'd do them now if I had to spend my entire play session just working towards those every day for 3 months, hence me preferring the current model. Plus with all the different systems in this one (Covenants, Maw, Torghast, Korthia) I usually find I can do something or other for extended periods if I have more time than usual, even if it's only clearing my backlog of Covenant dailies on alts.

But the current model is exactly that... See Korthia rep e.g.