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Classic seems to have kept over a million sub's over 2 years. I mean judging from ironforge there were around 800k characters appearing in raid logs each week until a few months before tbc launch. TBC is at half that number. I'm going to guess LK will be closer to TBC numbers which is more than enough to be successful for Blizzard and people who want to actively replay it.
I played this expansion sporadically but IIRC didn't you have to badge farm easy heroics and do the 10 man version of raids to gear for 25 man raids? As much as people complain about raid logging, I prefer not being required to spend extra time when the game is mostly about harder raids. Its like I could play an open world game more like vanilla levelling, maybe with some more of the social organization game it originally required, or I could play a game that was 99% harder instances. Those 2 games don't mix very well.
there will be no more PvPers left on retail after wrath releases.
wotlk classic is peak mmoc content
easy content that you can faceroll for badges and get disproportionately powerful gear
maybe this time though, people will do ulduar as current content at least.
Wotlk will obviously attract players, even if just for the nostalgia.
However I think people will burn through it even faster than TBC.
Despite being the pinnacle of WoW in terms of subs and whatnot, Wotlk was also the expansion that began the introduction of major substantive changes toe the game's philosophy and game play.
The dam might have burst in Cata (pun intended) but the cracks began appearing in Wotlk. WoW was going a major philosophical design remake and not for the better.
Vanilla went from 1 million subs to 8 million subs in TBC. Then it went about 10 million subs in WotLK. TBC was the most growth, WotLK was just riding on TBC's success.
Wrath will arguably be the most popular iteration of Classic. Classic Cataclysm will be dead on arrival.
I don't know that I've heard anyone whose opinion I respected saying it would be dead on arrival.
I think it will probably go like Classic and Burning Crusade. A huge crush at the start, thinning down in a few months and hit some much lower stable level some months after that. Any expectation that it will be wildly popular for longer than a year is very likely to be disappointed. It will do fine. Of the three it's the expansion I've most looked forward to seeing.
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I doubt there will be classic Wotlk. It would make totally zero sense at all.
Wotlk is a much better/fun version of TBC. I think it will be even more popular.
Of course it won't be dead on arrival, stop sperging out. WOTLK has something tbc doesn't, mount farming(Besides ashes). Mounts from OS/Malygos/ulduar/ICC will be enough to atleast keep guilds together and raiding 1-2 days a week.
But WOTLK was far from the best expansion, if you really think about it the expansion had nothing to do outside of raiding. People just say it is because of Ulduar and Lich king, Ulduar was a great raid.... for it's time, ICC was a terrible raid until lich king but 50 limited attempts was not a fun addition to raiding. People will still fully clear Ulduar HM in one day, the only thing that made yogg 0 hard was groups not fighting the adds at the door way which is what Stars did, and needing dps who could dps while looking away like shadow priests. The only other mechanic is dodging slow moving clouds which for it's time you'd be surprised how many idiots hit those things and spawned adds.
No, wotlk is not the best expansion (DUHURR SPERRUUURGGHHH BUT IT HAD THE MOST SUBS) so what, sub numbers don't mean it was the best expansion, it just means at the time in 2009/2010 there was no other MMo, WHICH there wasn't.
At least this time around, the ppl that played classic vanilla an classic tbc will go into classic wotlk with the same background experience as i had back in wotlk.
And i suspect they as well as i was will be less than pleased at running naxx again for months. And i think the dungeons, professions or reputations will impress them just as little as they did me compared to their earlier counterparts.
None of us really changes over time. We only become more fully what we are.
I never read about WotLK being DoA.
Even though I'm a retail andy, I can't wait for it. I bet it's gonna be popular enough.
Honestly there's only one real question about wrath classic. It's not if it will be popular or doa (it certainly won't be doa and no one has said it will. The OP was making shit up for Internet points). At what point will blizzard add lfd.