Just split the country.

[CastletonSnob]

I think it’s time to split the country due to irreconcilable differences. The red states and blue states are so fundamentally different, there’s no way to compromise. When a country can’t even agree to wear masks during a pandemic, or that a cop shooting unarmed people is bad, it’s time to accept that the United States is a failed experiment. Why should two parts of the country force themselves to stay with someone they so obviously can’t stand?

[Dacia Ultan]

When a country can’t even agree to wear masks during a pandemic, or that a cop shooting unarmed people is bad, it’s time to accept that the United States is a failed experiment.

Yeah...basic matters like that are definitely a bad sign. The trouble is that it's not particularly feasible from a geographic standpoint.

[Draco-Onis]

I think it’s time to split the country due to irreconcilable differences. The red states and blue states are so fundamentally different, there’s no way to compromise. When a country can’t even agree to wear masks during a pandemic, or that a cop shooting unarmed people is bad, it’s time to accept that the United States is a failed experiment. Why should two parts of the country force themselves to stay with someone they so obviously can’t stand?

That's not possible most states are purple not red and blue like the media would have you believe, look at New York and California nearly 40% of their population voted for Trump. There's no blue state or red state aside for a few exceptions unless you want to do mass migration not going to happen.

[Mihalik]

There's quite a few red states for example where Democrats outnumber and outvote Republicans, the state just happens to be so gerrymandered that it's practically impossible to turn blue until something like 65% of the population turns Dem.

[Biglog]

The only people suggesting 'splitting the country' or 'civil war' are the conservatives crying about losing the 2020 elections and don't have full control to essentially implement a one-party fascist state. This way of thinking is popular among the far-right lately, where for example they like to bash the entire state of California as though there aren't millions of GOP voters there. Ironically then they follow it up with graphics of the flag and go all-in on nationalism, while they support treason against half the stars and stripes on the US flag. You can't hate an entire state of the US out of ignorance that everyone there isn't of the opposing party, and then claim to be patriotic.

And as others have said, red or blue states simply mean a *temporary* majority, and that majority changes all the time. People aren't tattooed as conservative or liberal for life. When people vote most/many pick the best candidate and don't just mark every red or blue box blindly. If I were in MTG's district and I was a conservative, I'd vote for the democrat before putting someone like that in office for the sake of the country. Many states are purple and shift red to blue and back and forth all the time. Even the most red or blue states have people from the other party and in the US they have votes and voices.

This idea coming from the far-right btw that if they don't have total power we should split isn't new either. They floated the secession idea in 2016 in Texas also when it appeared that Hillary was going to win the election over Trump as most polls expected.

Lastly, Russia recently bragged about their success in knocking the UK down to nothing, openly admitting their online troll/bot farm work to alter public opinion on topics such as Brexit. It's an admission that a) they helped push the Brexit idea in the UK, and b) that they knew the severe damage Brexit would cause to the UK and help 'keep it down for a long time'. So have no doubts where many of these US ideas are coming from in relation to hating other states, splitting, creating division, etc. because that is a clear goal of our adversaries and they are very active and not very subtle in their activity around it.

[muto]

Those things you listed literally apply to every state. Some just at greater levels, hence why Florida Man is a thing.

[gondrin]

Yeah...basic matters like that are definitely a bad sign. The trouble is that it's not particularly feasible from a geographic standpoint.

Mask wearing has been an issue before. Look up the Anti-mask League back during the Spanish Flu. There has always been a group of people who will be against whatever and protest it.

[jonnysensible]

This premise seems to forget that all of these people are neighbors, how do you go about splitting up things at a local level, draw lines around everyones houses?

[Yuujin]

This premise seems to forget that all of these people are neighbors, how do you go about splitting up things at a local level, draw lines around everyones houses?

For New York, we can just put everyone who wants to remain in Red America on Staten Island and it can become its own state.

[Shadowferal]

Can't split the country.
You'd do better to split each state.
Conservative Red States of America
Progressive Blue States of America.
Each state will be referred by color. NJ blue/NJ red, for both states.

[Zan15]

For New York, we can just put everyone who wants to remain in Red America on Staten Island and it can become its own state.

bah you can just ship them all upstate, split it off from "downstate/island" and watch them go bankrupt and all starve.


Same thing would happen unfortunately to the new red state country.
Texas would bail on the whole mess because they always wanted to be their own country, so that would be half the funding of the new country out the door.

Where were we in 2020, 71% of the gdp voted for Biden? I know Clinton was high 60's.

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This premise seems to forget that all of these people are neighbors, how do you go about splitting up things at a local level, draw lines around everyones houses?

they already have with anti mask signs

[Shadowferal]

Texas would bail on the whole mess because they always wanted to be their own country, so that would be half the funding of the new country out the door.

Can't forget they'd have to build a wall around the whole new country of Texas. Funded by the war with Mexico...somehow.

[Rozz]

That wouldn't work, many conservative areas literally depend on "liberal brainwashing hubs" to even exist and we need the land they carve up for food.

[callipygoustp]

Just split the country.

For the love of god PLEASE. FUCKING PLEASE. I am so tired of funding the dumb ass, backwards, ignorant parts of the country.

[uuuhname]

funny as it would be to see literally all rural areas collapse into mad max style chaos in a matter of weeks I don't think that's the most practical or ethical thing to do.

[cubby]

I think it’s time to split the country due to irreconcilable differences. The red states and blue states are so fundamentally different, there’s no way to compromise. When a country can’t even agree to wear masks during a pandemic, or that a cop shooting unarmed people is bad, it’s time to accept that the United States is a failed experiment. Why should two parts of the country force themselves to stay with someone they so obviously can’t stand?

Can't - no discernable geographical line. Can't split the capital. Can't divide the resources.

Will. Never. Happen.

I agree with your sentiment. However, the cause for moving forward are those people who do want to wear a mask and who are outraged at cops shooting unarmed people, and they are trapped in those red states. We have to save them.

[downnola]

Why are people such babies when it comes to politics? Disagreement is normal in politics, especially in representative systems. If you want to live in a totalitarian, one party state then just move to one. There's plenty of them around.

[Shadowferal]

Yea, the problem with splitting is...well, it won't stop at red/blue. Oh sure it'll buy time, but we always find something else...another excuse to hate your neighbors.

[Corvus]

The only ones splitting the US helps are placed like Russia and China which is why they push it through their dupes and proxies.

[Masark]

Disagreement is normal in politics, especially in representative systems.

Plotting sedition and murder is not "disagreement".