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    Quote Originally Posted by Ripster42 View Post
    Is this a facebook joke I'm too old to understand?
    No. The ideology of the South metastasized throughout your country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kokolums View Post
    I guess if CNN is now fully on board with open discussion of it, I am not gonna get banned for reporting on what CNN is saying. So here it is. Discuss.





    CNNs Jim Acosta warns Tucker Carlson that if Tucker releases his 1/6 film, it could start a civil war.



    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/vi...go_tucker.html



    CNN's Acosta Warns Tucker Carlson's Jan. 6 Film Could Start Civil War: "Why Are You Doing This To America?"

    Posted By Tim Hains
    On Date October 31, 2021

    CNN, now almost entirely reactionary to what happens on rival station FOX News, warns that Tucker Carlson's program about the "true story" of the January 6 riot is a danger to democracy. Anchors Brian Stelter and Jim Acosta discuss.

    "Tucker is calling his propaganda flick 'The Patriot Purge.' It’s nothing more than Proud Boy porn," Acosta said. "My question to the [FOX News owners] Murdochs is this: "Why are you doing this to us? Why are you doing this to America?"

    "The reason why federal investigators and millions of Americans are terrified by right-wing violence in this country is because it keeps happening, and Tucker Carlson is inciting more of it," he said. "The Murdochs and Tucker Carlson, their primetime pyromaniac, appear to be hell-bent on dragging this country into a civil war."

    ACOSTA: The only government plot appears to be the plot hatched by Trump and his henchmen to stay in power. But the worst part of what Tucker is doing is that we've already seen what his brand of hate- filled rhetoric can do to America.

    Like in 2017 when white supremacists descended on Charlottesville, Virginia, and engaged in violent demonstrations that left one innocent woman dead, or like in 2018 in the mass shooting at the Tree of Life synagogue or in 2019 in the massacre at the Wal-Mart in El Paso, Texas.

    Both cases carried out by gunmen who wanted to stop an invasion of migrants coming into this country. Sounds a lot like those caravan segments you continue to see on Tucker's show and other programs on FOX.

    And of course Trump's big lie reverberated inside the far-right echo chamber for weeks before the political violence that exploded at the Capitol. The reason why federal investigators and millions of Americans are terrified by right-wing violence in this country is because it keeps happening and Tucker Carlson is inciting more of it. Tucker is calling his propaganda flip the patriot purge. It's nothing more than Proud Boy porn.

    And the worst part is that a major corporation in America, FOX, is bankrolling it. Now FOX is insisting Tucker's manifesto will only be seen on its streaming service. FOX Nation, please. No matter how you slice it, the Murdoch family, which controls FOX, is cashing in as American democracy is being set ablaze. The fact that the Murdoch-run "Wall Street Journal" just ran a letter to the editor from Trump peddling the big lie again is hardly the worst thing that they've done this week, and that's saying a lot.

    As the Antidefamation League wrote in a letter to FOX's executive chairman and CEO Lachlan Murdoch, how many more people need to die?

    My question to the Murdochs is this. Why are you doing this to us? Why are you doing this to America? You came to this country and built a media empire. Isn't that enough? During Trump, you became American state TV. Now you seem like end of America state TV. People like to say the Murdochs, oh, they're just like that HBO show, "Succession." Close. It's more like secession.

    The Murdochs and Tucker Carlson, their primetime pyromaniac, appear to be hell bent on dragging this country into a civil war. Jefferson Davis would be proud.
    You're still are a bat shit crazy conspiracy theorist and typically wrong everytime you post. Convenient how CNN is legitimate for you types.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ripster42 View Post
    The parts of the MO gov't (governor and minority of legislature) that joined the confederacy weren't in power by the time they did, and did so contra to MO's state constitution. MO provided soldiers to the union at nearly a 3:1 ratio compared to the confederacy. Even going strictly by participation in the civil war, MO is a northern state.



    You should have though.
    Texas was blue and California was red. Things change. JFC people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beefhammer View Post
    Texas was blue and California was red. Things change. JFC people.
    Yes, and MO didn't just randomly lower its latitude. JFC people. You might as well start claiming the dakotas and idaho are 'in the south.' Notice what my quote said, and what the quote chain is saying:

    Quote Originally Posted by muto View Post
    Don’t tell the Vietnamese or Afghans that. It turns out tunnels and caves > modern weaponry, and there are an ass ton of caves in the south. I don’t think there will ever be a civil war either, but I also think it’s kind of silly to act like militia men wouldn’t stand a chance when we lost two wars to essentially militia men. We also beat the British due in part to militia men, Native Americans, and guerrilla tactics.
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    I wouldn't consider either of those sates in the south.
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    It's here that it becomes undeniably about the civil war.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    Missouri, Kentucky, and Tennessee are most assuredly Southern States.
    It's MO's inclusion in the south during the civil war that I addressed in that post. They were not a southern state in the civil war.

    They're not a southern state now according to the census.

    They're not a southern state now due to representation anymore than the dakotas, idaho, or alaska are. It's part of the conservative midwest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ripster42 View Post
    Yes, and MO didn't just randomly lower its latitude. JFC people. You might as well start claiming the dakotas and idaho are 'in the south.' Notice what my quote said, and what the quote chain is saying:





    It's here that it becomes undeniably about the civil war.



    It's MO's inclusion in the south during the civil war that I addressed in that post. They were not a southern state in the civil war.

    They're not a southern state now according to the census.

    They're not a southern state now due to representation anymore than the dakotas, idaho, or alaska are. It's part of the conservative midwest.
    MO has always been considered a southern state. It matters not that they sent more support to the Union. It was under the Mason-Dixon line. It's been as red as can be for most of my life. And what census info are you referring to?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beefhammer View Post
    MO has always been considered a southern state. It matters not that they sent more support to the Union. It was under the Mason-Dixon line. It's been as red as can be for most of my life. And what census info are you referring to?
    https://www2.census.gov/geo/pdfs/map.../us_regdiv.pdf
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    I do not need to play the role of "holier than thou". I'm above that..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cthulhu 2020 View Post
    I think the more concerning part is that conservatives are already starting to draw lines on the map for what might be considered "Sides" in a new civil war.

    IF Civil War ever broke out, it would more than likely be a bunch of rural based militias forming up into vans and unleashing coordinated attacks on urban centers. At that point it would be the national guard and the local police (plus any local military) vs the rural dissidents. Some police and service members might defect to the side of the dissidents, and the president at the time might even order the service to stand down, but I think there would be some fairly organized resistance to any militias.
    IF civil war broke out, it comes down to alliances.

    1. in the revolutionary war, the colonists got france and parts of germany to help and won.
    2. in the civil war, the south failed to get france to help and lost.
    3. in a civil war now, russia would be here in seconds to help kill as many democrats as they can as payback for all the sanctions, economic harm, threats, etc. and they will do it with absolute GLEE... and china would be in here backing russia too because they are buddy buddy. the democrats have made a monstrous enemy of russia.

    The odds of a democrat victory are zero. the democrats are just lucky the republican side hasn't figured out the math yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kokolums View Post
    The odds of a democrat victory are zero. the democrats are just lucky the republican side hasn't figured out the math yet.
    Yes dear, Civil War 2 is coming and the Republicans will kill all those dirty liberals that hurt your feelings and create that Christian utopia you've always dreamed of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kokolums View Post
    3. in a civil war now, russia would be here in seconds
    Russia doesn't have that sort of power projection capacity, bruh, nor does China.

    Your wank fantasy isn't reflected by any geopolitical realities, and stating it over and over won't increase its likelihood of being true. Just like you were dead fuckin' wrong about Trump winning in 2020, and dead fuckin' wrong about the fascist action at the Capitol succeeding.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kokolums View Post
    3. in a civil war now, russia would be here in seconds to help kill as many democrats as they can as payback for all the sanctions, economic harm, threats, etc. and they will do it with absolute GLEE... and china would be in here backing russia too because they are buddy buddy. the democrats have made a monstrous enemy of russia.

    The odds of a democrat victory are zero. the democrats are just lucky the republican side hasn't figured out the math yet.
    You uh...spend a lot of time thinking about this?

    Also, dang it's convenient that the Civil War will simply split down party lines. That's extremely considerate so that we don't have to deal with any complex topics. Just a nice, simple, black and white fantasy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kokolums View Post
    IF civil war broke out, it comes down to alliances.

    1. in the revolutionary war, the colonists got france and parts of germany to help and won.
    2. in the civil war, the south failed to get france to help and lost.
    3. in a civil war now, russia would be here in seconds to help kill as many democrats as they can as payback for all the sanctions, economic harm, threats, etc. and they will do it with absolute GLEE... and china would be in here backing russia too because they are buddy buddy. the democrats have made a monstrous enemy of russia.

    The odds of a democrat victory are zero. the democrats are just lucky the republican side hasn't figured out the math yet.
    Imagine being so desperate for a civil war your go-to argument has become "Russia will save us!"

    This wouldn't have been feasible during the height of the USSR, and modern Russia is pretty damned pathetic by comparison to the full strength of the USSR at its peak.

    You're talking about a few thousand stupid-ass domestic terrorists, at best. There won't be any "civil war". Just a bunch of idiots going to prison for their crimes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kokolums View Post

    The odds of a democrat victory are zero. the democrats are just lucky the republican side hasn't figured out the math yet.
    I love this conservative fantasy trope where they think because "the left" is in favor of any gun control that equates to them just... I don't even know laying down in the streets waiting to be shot by marauding hordes of red necks or whatever.

    I know you weirdos think the military is going to side with you, but they're not. that ship sailed in 1951. the pullers of the levers of power in this country care FAR more about maintaining the status quo than they do helping a bunch of LARPing rebels who couldn't even last two weeks camping out in the wilderness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Endus View Post
    Imagine being so desperate for a civil war your go-to argument has become "Russia will save us!"
    I love this idea too that China would step in to help Russia, and not the the government that is China's largest trading partner. IDK if it's the ignorance or lust for bloodshed that has this guy tripping this hard.

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    You're talking about a few thousand stupid-ass domestic terrorists, at best. There won't be any "civil war". Just a bunch of idiots going to prison for their crimes.
    let's be generous, give them ten thousand, or even 20 thousand, out of a country of 300+ million.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kokolums View Post
    IF civil war broke out, it comes down to alliances.

    1. in the revolutionary war, the colonists got france and parts of germany to help and won.
    2. in the civil war, the south failed to get france to help and lost.
    3. in a civil war now, russia would be here in seconds to help kill as many democrats as they can as payback for all the sanctions, economic harm, threats, etc. and they will do it with absolute GLEE... and china would be in here backing russia too because they are buddy buddy. the democrats have made a monstrous enemy of russia.

    The odds of a democrat victory are zero. the democrats are just lucky the republican side hasn't figured out the math yet.
    Yeah, nothing you said has a basis in reality. Especially since most of the current military, voted for Biden.

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    If Russia interferes, and that's a big if, they wouldn't in the slightest be interested in one side winning. It would be in their best interest to keep the inner turmoil going because that would basically make the US non-existent on global politics (read: no more world police).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kokolums View Post
    IF civil war broke out, it comes down to alliances.

    1. in the revolutionary war, the colonists got france and parts of germany to help and won.
    2. in the civil war, the south failed to get france to help and lost.
    3. in a civil war now, russia would be here in seconds to help kill as many democrats as they can as payback for all the sanctions, economic harm, threats, etc. and they will do it with absolute GLEE... and china would be in here backing russia too because they are buddy buddy. the democrats have made a monstrous enemy of russia.

    The odds of a democrat victory are zero. the democrats are just lucky the republican side hasn't figured out the math yet.
    You are at erotic fan fiction levels of wanting civil war and it honestly seems like an unsafe obsession. Seriously, go seek help, real actual help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kokolums View Post
    IF civil war broke out, it comes down to alliances.

    1. in the revolutionary war, the colonists got france and parts of germany to help and won.
    2. in the civil war, the south failed to get france to help and lost.
    3. in a civil war now, russia would be here in seconds to help kill as many democrats as they can as payback for all the sanctions, economic harm, threats, etc. and they will do it with absolute GLEE... and china would be in here backing russia too because they are buddy buddy. the democrats have made a monstrous enemy of russia.

    The odds of a democrat victory are zero. the democrats are just lucky the republican side hasn't figured out the math yet.
    Is that why you demanded everyone vote for, and support Nazis?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kokolums View Post
    in a civil war now, russia would be here in seconds to help kill as many democrats as they can as payback for all the sanctions, economic harm, threats, etc. and they will do it with absolute GLEE... and china would be in here backing russia too because they are buddy buddy. the democrats have made a monstrous enemy of russia.
    Gee even in your fantasy you can't get the facts straight Republicans put the strongest sanctions against Russia in spite of Trump's objections. Also it's not like people are running around with party labels on top of their heads, last but not least you know the best way to end a civil war? give people a common enemy like I don't know Russian commies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kokolums View Post
    The odds of a democrat victory are zero. the democrats are just lucky the republican side hasn't figured out the math yet.
    Putting aside your school playground geopolitical analysis let me see if I get this straight.

    You are claiming that the only reason Republicans ( your side: don't try to fool us) haven't started a civil war already is because they still haven't realized how to win it.

    You are claiming that you ( yeah you: your side) want to start a civil war and kill potentially millions of Americans.

    That's what the side you support wants ( so implicitly: you).

    I love that you have upgraded from "Civil War is coming" to "I WANT a Civil War" wich, in the end, is what most of us already suspected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kokolums View Post
    IF civil war broke out, it comes down to alliances.

    1. in the revolutionary war, the colonists got france and parts of germany to help and won.
    2. in the civil war, the south failed to get france to help and lost.
    3. in a civil war now, russia would be here in seconds to help kill as many democrats as they can as payback for all the sanctions, economic harm, threats, etc. and they will do it with absolute GLEE... and china would be in here backing russia too because they are buddy buddy. the democrats have made a monstrous enemy of russia.

    The odds of a democrat victory are zero. the democrats are just lucky the republican side hasn't figured out the math yet.
    If Russia will help Republicans what would stop all/most of the EU from helping Democrats?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orange Joe View Post
    If Russia will help Republicans what would stop all/most of the EU from helping Democrats?
    Why would Russia help anyone in the first place? We would be too busy reclaiming the Alaska

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yadryonych View Post
    Why would Russia help anyone in the first place? We would be too busy reclaiming the Alaska
    You can't reclaim something legitimately sold.

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