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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkAmbient View Post
    Remember when just before the invasion Russia claimed there was a carbomb attack in Donetsk targeting a head of security there? I would eat my hat if this latest carbombing wasn't another false flag.
    I don't buy the false flag. They wouldn't have blown up the daughter of someone somewhat important.
    It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gorsameth View Post
    I don't buy the false flag. They wouldn't have blown up the daughter of someone somewhat important.
    Right, but I don't buy the official story either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gorsameth View Post
    I don't buy the false flag. They wouldn't have blown up the daughter of someone somewhat important.
    Putin tried to have Navalny poisoned to death, he doesn't give a shit. The only other explanation that's reasonable to me is Ponomarev's claim that Russian anti-Putin partisans were responsible. That said, lies and propaganda are part of war and all sides seek to profit from them, so at this point it's anyone's guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkAmbient View Post
    Putin tried to have Navalny poisoned to death, he doesn't give a shit. The only other explanation that's reasonable to me is Ponomarev's claim that Russian anti-Putin partisans were responsible. That said, lies and propaganda are part of war and all sides seek to profit from them, so at this point it's anyone's guess.
    Ummmm Navalny has been his opponent for years so ye, no shit he was on his hit list. Dugin is his close buddy thinker that gave him loads of ideas and fully supports his "great Russia uniting all Slavs" idea. Trying to remove him makes zero sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gorsameth View Post
    I don't buy the false flag. They wouldn't have blown up the daughter of someone somewhat important.
    It may not have been a "False Flag" per say, more than Putin sending a message to Dugin since he's supposed to have been the architect of the Ukraine Invasion.

    I could easily see Putin expressing his displeasure of the 3 day war turning into 6 months of nothing but losses by car bombing your kids.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Belize View Post
    It may not have been a "False Flag" per say, more than Putin sending a message to Dugin since he's supposed to have been the architect of the Ukraine Invasion.

    I could easily see Putin expressing his displeasure of the 3 day war turning into 6 months of nothing but losses by car bombing your kids.
    First of all, Dugin was supposed to be in this car, it was his. Second, it makes zero sense to blame him for all the fails, when he has zero influence over actual war effort. Dugin is not a military nor from any agency, he was "only" an architect of the invasion ideas and philosophy, not the actual invasion.
    Last edited by Makabreska; 2022-08-22 at 04:02 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iphie View Post
    Ukraine claims 9000 Ukrainian soldiers killed.

    I must admit that I'm having some doubts, but if this is true then the discrepancy between defenders killed and invaders killed is rapidly approaching Winter War levels...(if not already exceeding)
    A well dug in defense is highly likely to have fewer casualties than the ones on the offense in modern warfare when the aggressors are not insanely overpowering the defenders.

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    Last word on the bombing is that some Russian Militia group called 'The National Republican Army' is claiming responsibility for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Belize View Post
    It may not have been a "False Flag" per say, more than Putin sending a message to Dugin since he's supposed to have been the architect of the Ukraine Invasion.

    I could easily see Putin expressing his displeasure of the 3 day war turning into 6 months of nothing but losses by car bombing your kids.
    Then you make her fall out of a window or drum up false charges and send her to a gulag, everyone that matters will get the message but the common Russian will be none the wiser. Unlike a freaking car bomb for everyone to see and worry over that just makes you look even weaker because now Ukraine is bombing in Moscow.

    (also if you don't like someone don't kill their kids, you just create an arch-nemesis that will spend the rest of their existence finding ways to pay you back. Imprison them as a bargaining chip or kill the person themselves.)

    obv the official story is complete BS.
    I can buy some anti-Putin Russian organisation doing it, trying to take out a big Putin ideology supporter but getting his daughter by accident instead.
    It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xyonai View Post
    Last word on the bombing is that some Russian Militia group called 'The National Republican Army' is claiming responsibility for it.
    Can we appreciate the abbreviation here? 'NRA'...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xyonai View Post
    Last word on the bombing is that some Russian Militia group called 'The National Republican Army' is claiming responsibility for it.
    Wowowowowowow how dare they go against official state version!
    Last edited by Makabreska; 2022-08-22 at 04:44 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iphie View Post
    Can we appreciate the abbreviation here? 'NRA'...
    The other NRA has surely killed thousands more and is a way bigger terrorist organization.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corvus View Post
    The FSB has claimed they have 'solved' the assassination of Dugina already. And gosh darn it, it was a Ukrainian woman and member of the Azov regiment who went to Moscow with her 12 year old daughter, blew up Dugina and then escaped to Estonia afterwards. No doubt she was a SIMS 3 player as well.
    This has to be the world record for the fastest investigation in a murder case, in a country known for atrociously poor, slow and corrupted police work.

    Funny how the intended target survived the explosion, but suddenly had a heart attack right after. Probably drank a cup of tea from said FSB detectives that were rushed on site!


    My bet is the guy started to go against the regime, maybe being too radical and asking a bit too openly for more progress or nuclear strikes.


    It makes zero sense for Ukraine to strike against political people in Russia. It would be a very stupid move.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikah View Post
    This has to be the world record for the fastest investigation in a murder case, in a country known for atrociously poor, slow and corrupted police work.

    Funny how the intended target survived the explosion, but suddenly had a heart attack right after. Probably drank a cup of tea from said FSB detectives that were rushed on site!


    My bet is the guy started to go against the regime, maybe being too radical and asking a bit too openly for more progress or nuclear strikes.


    It makes zero sense for Ukraine to strike against political people in Russia. It would be a very stupid move.
    it also doesn't make sense for Putin to cause public unrest by blowing up cars in Moscow. If he wants him dead he can do it in 100's of better ways then this.
    It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death

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    What a weekend, Tankie tears everywhere! Dugina gets roasted.
    • Remember back in March when Putin was throwing various security orgs under the bus for the failed invasion?
    • The economic sanctions are squeezing government departments and whole sectors of the economy.
    Systems are brought down not by disaffected masses, but by disaffected elites.

    Also the CPIUSA collapses, cancels all memberships!

    Turns out their leader was a serial sex pest and abuser. Stay tuned for his Apology Video on Dirtbag Youtube.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Makabreska View Post
    Ummmm Navalny has been his opponent for years so ye, no shit he was on his hit list. Dugin is his close buddy thinker that gave him loads of ideas and fully supports his "great Russia uniting all Slavs" idea. Trying to remove him makes zero sense.
    The martyrdom of such a figure would make perfect sense in the context of the propaganda war.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xyonai View Post
    Last word on the bombing is that some Russian Militia group called 'The National Republican Army' is claiming responsibility for it.
    Many seem to agree it's an FSB front to reign in the nationalists, and also to root out actual revolutionaries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xyonai View Post
    Last word on the bombing is that some Russian Militia group called 'The National Republican Army' is claiming responsibility for it.
    I don't think that's quite right. Ponomarev, the guy expelled from Russia, has claimed it's them but I don't believe they have made any public statement themselves. It would make sense for it to be them though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Voidism View Post
    Many seem to agree it's an FSB front to reign in the nationalists, and also to root out actual revolutionaries.
    Even if that were the case it could still be used as a legit organisation, I mean hide in the open?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkAmbient View Post
    The martyrdom of such a figure would make perfect sense in the context of the propaganda war.
    Could be, but I do not buy it was Putlers doing. Rather some third party that's fed up, wants to escalate conflict and crush Ukraine.
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