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    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    Today: Russian President Vladimir Putin held a phone call with Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi about the situation in Ukraine and ties between Moscow and New Delhi.

    Putin and Modi "expressed satisfaction" with the high level of bilateral cooperation developing based on "a particularly privileged Russian-Indian strategic partnership," the Kremlin said in a statement.

    "The leaders discussed in detail the prospects for practical cooperation in such areas as mutual investment, energy, agriculture, transport, and logistics," it added.

    They also pointed out the importance of continuing close coordination within international organizations, including taking into account India's chairmanship in the Group of 20 and the Shanghai Cooperation Organization, the statement said.

    "At the request of Narendra Modi, Vladimir Putin gave principled assessments in the context of Russia's line on the Ukrainian direction," it added.

    Putin and Modi also agreed to continue personal contacts.
    To put it into context: "The telephonic conversation came days after it emerged that PM Modi will not be travelling to Moscow for the annual India-Russia summit this year."

    Telephonic?

  2. #26922
    backtracking a bit to what happened last night:

    it appears the Russian missile attack was to destroy Ukraine's energy infastructure. To quote: Russia's hoping they can entirely deprive the Ukrainians of electricity, food, and clean water for a victory in the long-run. They gravely warned the US over its intentions to complicate this strategy with increasingly more advanced weapons system, subtly implying an attack on US soil itself in retaliation. This comes at the heels of threatening NATO nations as legitimate military targets.

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    You still just don't get it.

    As the Ukrainians have been saying;
    In a Telegram post addressed to Russia, Zelenskyy asked: “Do you still think that we are ‘one nation?’ Do you still think that you can scare us, break us, make us make concessions?”

    “You really did not understand anything? Don’t understand who we are? What are we for? What are we talking about?,” said the post, which published Sunday.

    “Read my lips: Without gas or without you? Without you. Without light or without you? Without you. Without water or without you? Without you. Without food or without you? Without you,” Zelenskyy wrote.

    “Cold, hunger, darkness and thirst are not as scary and deadly for us as your ‘friendship and brotherhood,’” he added. “But history will put everything in its place. And we will be with gas, light, water and food … and WITHOUT you!”
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    New video has popped up from the Bakhmut front, where once more the Wanker SS has been driven back, of muscovite trenchlines being hit by precision airburst artillery shells. The aftermath is a LOT of bodies. WW1 style trenches like the muscovites are using are useless against modern tech. Just like zerg rushes are useless against modern tech.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corvus View Post
    You still just don't get it.

    As the Ukrainians have been saying;

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    New video has popped up from the Bakhmut front, where once more the Wanker SS has been driven back, of muscovite trenchlines being hit by precision airburst artillery shells. The aftermath is a LOT of bodies. WW1 style trenches like the muscovites are using are useless against modern tech. Just like zerg rushes are useless against modern tech.
    What we've seen of a lot of the trenches built by the ruzzkies in this war aren't even that.

    Not deep enough, and often not built in a zig-zaging fashion either to mitigate against shock-waves inside the trench from direct hits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    backtracking a bit to what happened last night:

    it appears the Russian missile attack was to destroy Ukraine's energy infastructure. To quote: Russia's hoping they can entirely deprive the Ukrainians of electricity, food, and clean water for a victory in the long-run. They gravely warned the US over its intentions to complicate this strategy with increasingly more advanced weapons system, subtly implying an attack on US soil itself in retaliation. This comes at the heels of threatening NATO nations as legitimate military targets.
    Dude, really, russia isn't going to strike US soil, not unless they want to see ALL their armed forces go up in flames a few minutes later. As for the intent to destroy Ukraine's infrastructure, that's known, and the Ukrainians don't care.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zealo View Post
    What we've seen of a lot of the trenches built by the ruzzkies in this war aren't even that.

    Not deep enough, and often not built in a zig-zaging fashion either to mitigate against shock-waves inside the trench from direct hits.
    To be fair, each wave of fodder is in charge of digging the trench a little bit deeper, a little further, a little more. And they succeed before coming down with the explodies. The next wave may/may not have better people capable of digging, so you get varying quality with each wave, giving shoddily constructed trenches full of people parts who came down with the explodies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iphie View Post
    Dude, really, russia isn't going to strike US soil, not unless they want to see ALL their armed forces go up in flames a few minutes later. As for the intent to destroy Ukraine's infrastructure, that's known, and the Ukrainians don't care.
    1. To quote Joe Biden: Russia must lose, but they must not lose *too hard*; (my words): this is lest they become unpredictable.

    2. I'm sure the news yesterday correlate to these attacks. Russia is trying to attack Ukraine infastructure and meal lines so their 200k zerg rush (aforementioned) goes a little better than it sounds on paper when it's January/Feb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poopymonster View Post
    To be fair, each wave of fodder is in charge of digging the trench a little bit deeper, a little further, a little more. And they succeed before coming down with the explodies. The next wave may/may not have better people capable of digging, so you get varying quality with each wave, giving shoddily constructed trenches full of people parts who came down with the explodies.
    It's almost like the Russian plan is to have their fellow platoon mates absorb the blast with their bodies to keep them safe, the mistakes they're making displays a profound ignorance of things even the armies of WW1 knew they needed to protect their people against indirect fire with.

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    We're almost there, it's almost going to say it. Come on YUPPIE, you can do it.

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    I mean, I hope you people understand as awful as it sounds considering how much people want him dead: Vladimir Putin is regularly offered to surrender with his life by the day; there is nothing saying the war has to end with him surrendering himself to the Hague or anything with his imprisonment/execution.

    Even now, Joe Biden is still saying Putin can just quit alive.

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    Interesting development: Wagner head claims France attempted an assassination on a Russian official in Africa

    The head of a Russian private militia accused France of attempting to assassinate the head of a Russian representative office in the Central African Republic, who was seriously injured on Friday after opening a mail bomb.

    Dmitry Syty, head of the "Russian House," was taken to a hospital in the capital Bangui and by late afternoon his condition was serious, but stable, the Russian Embassy said, according to the Russian RIA Novosti news agency.

    https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-725079

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    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    backtracking a bit to what happened last night:

    it appears the Russian missile attack was to destroy Ukraine's energy infastructure. To quote: Russia's hoping they can entirely deprive the Ukrainians of electricity, food, and clean water for a victory in the long-run. They gravely warned the US over its intentions to complicate this strategy with increasingly more advanced weapons system, subtly implying an attack on US soil itself in retaliation. This comes at the heels of threatening NATO nations as legitimate military targets.
    Do it and see what happens.

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    More evidence of muscovy's ammo supply issues - a recent captured packing slip of 152mm ammo shows it was manufactured this year as part of an order for Azerbaijan. Basically the russians failed to deliver it and took it for their own use.

    https://twitter.com/TheDeadDistrict/...t1RsQcatQTk8Vw

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gabriel View Post
    Do it and see what happens.
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    Quit using other posters as levels of crazy. That is not ok


    If you look, you can see the straw man walking a red herring up a slippery slope coming to join this conversation.

  14. #26934
    For those that said Russia is running out of missiles, according to Zelensky, they have enough to perform at least several more attacks on the scale of yesterday

    https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/12/16/7381111/

    Not much to reiterate here past that, other than yesterday's missile strikes depriving Kharkiv of all power.

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    So a couple of hundred left then after firing off many thousands already.

  16. #26936
    Quote Originally Posted by Corvus View Post
    So a couple of hundred left then after firing off many thousands already.
    the point is: they can still wreak havoc with what they have. Like in spite of Ukraine boasting they shot down some 60 of 70 missiles yesterday, look at what went through did. It's horrible.
    Last edited by YUPPIE; 2022-12-17 at 10:59 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poopymonster View Post
    Perhaps Vladdy has hopes that once his "Donor Recipients" are in control of the House of Representatives, Ukraine assistance will grind to a fucking halt. This would severely limit the resources Ukraine has and make it easier to drown them in bodies when they aren't getting rearmed.
    As I understood it there's plenty of bipartisan support in the house to keep on supporting Ukraine. Not to mention that the weapon industry is making a killing (pun not intended) of this and something tells me that they also have a fair share of donor recipients.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poopymonster View Post
    Perhaps Vladdy has hopes that once his "Donor Recipients" are in control of the House of Representatives, Ukraine assistance will grind to a fucking halt. This would severely limit the resources Ukraine has and make it easier to drown them in bodies when they aren't getting rearmed.
    Allowing Russia to win would basically be the greenlight message that China can invade Taiwan and the West won't do much about it.

    You know what happens in Taiwan? Oh no much, just most of the world's electronics being made, and if China acquires Taiwan it will have an unbelievable amount of control over the world's electronics market, which would be a kick in the balls to the West's economy.

    The Right can brag and bluster about staying out of wars, but they're not DUMB.

    If anything it's Biden that would want to Russia to win, after all we know he has a certain...affinity for the CCP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cynical Asshole View Post
    If anything it's Biden that would want to Russia to win, after all we know he has a certain...affinity for the CCP.
    Excuse me? The president that currently is sending tons of support to Ukraine wants Russia to win? That is just blatantly untrue.

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    If anything it's Biden that would want to Russia to win, after all we know he has a certain...affinity for the CCP.
    What in the wide, wide, world of sports is this bullshit?
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