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    Quote Originally Posted by Corvus View Post
    The russian population is so brainwashed and servile they'd believe anything they are told. So if pootie pulled out and said they'd won, it would be believed.
    no, they (the citizens) know they're losing right now. They know, believe me they know.

    Putin wouldn't be able to fabricate such a lie. However, what drives the Russians right now in their war to win is they genuinely think everything they've suffered, from the lives to Russia regressing into an almost third world country, is because the West is out to destroy them. They think if they surrender now, then they will have truly lost everything.

    So that's why they must keep going from their POV. They think if they win in Ukraine, they will be normalcy in their lives again: you know, Mcdonalds, social media, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strawberry View Post
    I think everyone with nukes is afraid of each other.
    I'm pretty sure there's a Poseidon sitting in wait near every major port city in the world. Undetectable until it activates. At that time it will be too late.
    Miami, New York, Los Angeles, San Francisco, all would be erased within a few minutes.
    I think this was true up until it became clear that Russia's conventional forces were fucking hilariously ill prepared to actually launch a war against a near-peer military and how poorly maintained or simply rubbish much of their vaunted equipment was. It calls into question their readiness to even launch nuclear attacks in the first place, and the showing of UA successfully bombing air fields hundreds of KM into Russia tells us that their AA is also absolutely garbage (Likely because they've been using their AA batteries to bomb hospitals and playgrounds and puppy shelters or whatever) and may not even be prepared to protect itself in the case of a nuclear strike.

    If their Nuclear Subs are anything like their Air Craft Carriers or their (former) flagship of the Black Sea, then I'd be surprised if there were more than a handful of them that still even work or exist to begin with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    no, they (the citizens) know they're losing right now. They know, believe me they know.

    Putin wouldn't be able to fabricate such a lie. However, what drives the Russians right now in their war to win is they genuinely think everything they've suffered, from the lives to Russia regressing into an almost third world country, is because the West is out to destroy them. They think if they surrender now, then they will have truly lost everything.

    So that's why they must keep going from their POV. They think if they win in Ukraine, they will be normalcy in their lives again: you know, Mcdonalds, social media, etc.
    Then they're deluded and I can play the world's smallest violin when they cry about a NATO armed UA turning their rubbish army of barbarians into a fine red mist.

    My sympathy for them really isn't there anymore. I won't dehumanize them, and I think a lot of folks here need to take a step back about ascribing a whole people as a bunch of bloodthirsty monsters, but if the populous is gonna keep trucking on throwing support into a - poorly conducted - genocide then I don't have the energy to feel sad about it when they send another thousand shlubs to be obliterated or complain about being sanctioned over a conflict their shitty dictator started.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xyonai View Post
    I don't have the energy to feel sad about it when they send another thousand shlubs
    not a thousand. 200k.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    not a thousand. 200k.
    right my mistake.

    When they send another Two-Hundred Thousand Shlubs to be obliterated*.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    the problem with saying these things is it means now diplomacy or anything of the sort like amiable relations with Russia is out the window.

    Now the terms are more or less: Surrender. Otherwise, there's nothing to say.
    That shipped has sailed with all the threats, gas lighting, and lunacy from Russia. There is no future diplomacy with Putin. A duck is a duck long before the US declared him a terrorist.

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    Powerful speech by Zelensky. Really played to the audience with references to things like Battles of Saratoga and the Bulge. Also the part about aid to Ukraine not being charity but being an investment in global security and democracy was well said.

    Of course the deplorables were going to deplore. Boebert and Gaetz were both seen refusing to clap when he entered and Boebert pointedly sat down while the applause was still going on. You are going to have to find someone else to whore out to once daddy pootie is no more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corvus View Post
    Of course the deplorables were going to deplore. Boebert and Gaetz were both seen refusing to clap when he entered and Boebert pointedly sat down while the applause was still going on.
    man I'm not gonna go as far as to claim he's a king to deserve it, but do you HAVE to clap or applaud in this instance?

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    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    They're just openly calling Putin a terrorist now on TV. And by "they," I mean government officials and Biden, not just social media goers.

    I lost track of how many times on the conference today they called him terrorist with some peppers of murderer and warmonger.
    GOOD

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    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    man I'm not gonna go as far as to claim he's a king to deserve it, but do you HAVE to clap or applaud in this instance?
    Just gonna leave this here.


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    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    the problem with saying these things is it means now diplomacy or anything of the sort like amiable relations with Russia is out the window.

    Now the terms are more or less: Surrender. Otherwise, there's nothing to say.
    Good. Fuck Putin.

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    One of the best things about Patriot compared to what Ukraine currently have is that it can shoot down ballistic missiles, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corvus View Post
    Compare and contrast.


    why is he no longer wearing a suit? I've seen him in the same military uniform since the invasion started. Literally the same clothes barring combat armor sometimes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    why is he no longer wearing a suit? I've seen him in the same military uniform since the invasion started. Literally the same clothes barring combat armor sometimes.
    Are you feeble in the brainbox? or just dense as lead?

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    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    why is he no longer wearing a suit? I've seen him in the same military uniform since the invasion started. Literally the same clothes barring combat armor sometimes.
    Christ. You sound like the Conservatives that flipped out when Obama dared to wear a tan suit.

    Zelenskyy is wearing his now traditional "wartime uniform" as a visual reminder that his country is under siege.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iphie View Post
    Are you feeble in the brainbox? or just dense as lead?
    Jokes on you. All that lead is going to protect him when Putin inevitably starts tossing out nukes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    why is he no longer wearing a suit? I've seen him in the same military uniform since the invasion started. Literally the same clothes barring combat armor sometimes.
    Everyone knows when you meet the President you wear green. Shame on Biden for not showing proper respect.

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    Well, the Ukrainian counter has hit 100,000 russians kia. Coincidentally just as Shoigu announced 100,000 have received awards.

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    has Zelensky openly ever had any criticism of or critical opinions of biden, if talking of the contrast on what he thinks of trump.

    I remember he genuinely didn't like trump

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    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    has Zelensky openly ever had any criticism of or critical opinions of biden, if talking of the contrast on what he thinks of trump.
    It's honestly not typical for world leaders to badmouth each other publicly. Trump is generally pretty unique in that regard, among leaders who aren't openly authoritarian.

    I remember he genuinely didn't like trump
    Yes, well, Trump tried to blackmail Ukraine into manufacturing dirt on Joe Biden by trying to withhold promised aid that had been legally authorized by Congress. That doesn't generally endear you to people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    has Zelensky openly ever had any criticism of or critical opinions of biden, if talking of the contrast on what he thinks of trump.

    I remember he genuinely didn't like trump
    Yeah, people don't really tend to like those trying to blackmail them, buddy.

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    The Russia bots are out in force on Twitter, mocking Biden and Zelensky's meeting.

    Aww who am I kidding, a bunch of them are MAGAts. Because the far right LIKES dictatorial autocrats who push white nationalist religious rule with an iron fist. They don't want a democracy, they want to force their government on others. Pray these people never gain power in the US.
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