Russian invasion of Ukraine

[jonnysensible]

oof those leaked documents that have russian KIA double the amount of Ukranian KIA (the real ones not the badly edited ones).

get fucking wrecked 35k+ russian cunts.

[Corvus]

Which documents? Cause muscovy kia are way north of 35K. Ukraine is putting it at near 200k and some western reports put it at 100k, and that was a long time back.

[jonnysensible]

Which documents? Cause muscovy kia are way north of 35K. Ukraine is putting it at near 200k and some western reports put it at 100k, and that was a long time back.

https://twitter.com/AricToler/status...38707216130050

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/06/u...an-russia.html

[Iphie]

https://twitter.com/AricToler/status...38707216130050

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/06/u...an-russia.html

It doesn't show a date does it? So this might be old inormation, still not something you want out of course.

[jonnysensible]

It doesn't show a date does it? So this might be old inormation, still not something you want out of course.

dunno but the stats seem about right, 35k dead = 105k wounded if we are doing 1:3. probably about 4 weeks old

[Azadina]

dunno but the stats seem about right, 35k dead = 105k wounded if we are doing 1:3. probably about 4 weeks old

Maybe right for Wagner, but for entirety of RuZZki forces over a year of repeated heavy losses? Not a chance.

[jonnysensible]

Maybe right for Wagner, but for entirety of RuZZki forces over a year of repeated heavy losses? Not a chance.

100 dead a day for a year? seems about right. Ukranians were saying they were losing 100 a day at one point when it got really bad and it would make sense Russia would suffer the same because for them everyday is bad. There was a massive lull in the fighting over winter as well while both sides reconstituted their depleted forces.

[Iphie]

100 dead a day for a year? seems about right. Ukranians were saying they were losing 100 a day at one point when it got really bad and it would make sense Russia would suffer the same because for them everyday is bad. There was a massive lull in the fighting over winter as well while both sides reconstituted their depleted forces.

russia has been losing over a 1000 men a day at times in Bakhmut during the last few months. So 35k is almost certainly way too low.

[Corvus]

Russia didn't rest over winter. They tried a massive offensive all along the lines that failed majorly and took staggering losses for pretty much no gain.

[Dontrike]

Looks like the sanctions hit one of Russia's banks really well, one posted a $7.7 billion loss.

Russia's second-largest bank, VTB, reported a record annual loss of $7.7 billion on Wednesday after it was battered by Western sanctions last year.

VTB was one of the first banks to be excluded from the SWIFT global payments system after Russian forces invaded Ukraine in February 2022.

Both the U.S. and Britain placed individual sanctions on the bank’s chief, Andrei Kostin, who is a close associate of Russian President Vladimir Putin.

VTB announced on Wednesday that its total losses in 2022 amounted to 612.6 billion rubles.

Noting the challenges the bank faces as Western sanctions tighten their grip on the Russian economy, VTB chief financial officer, Dmitry Pianov, said: "As a leader in servicing foreign trade activities and in investment banking, we became the first target for the maximum possible sanctions.”

In 2021, VTB posted a net profit of 327 billion rubles ($4.1 billion).

The bank said it had suffered from an "unprecedented outflow of [foreign] currencies" as well as losses related to the disposal of its subsidiaries, including those in Europe.

VTB also said it was impacted by the Russian Central Bank’s decision to hike interest rates as the West pummelled the country with sanctions.

In 2020, VTB had 15 million clients in Russia and employed around 80,000 workers.

[YUPPIE]

I thought Crimea was the red line for Putin - one even the US ill-advised Ukraine to consider retaking - , but today Ukraine ominously warned Russians to leave it in peace or prepare for huge battle.

KYIV — Ukraine has not changed its plans for the return of territory occupied by Russia, including Crimea.

“Ukraine will choose the way to bring Crimea back, using political and military means,” Tamila Tasheva, the Ukrainian president’s envoy on Crimea, told POLITICO.

“To minimize Ukrainian military losses, minimize threats to civilians who live in occupied territories, as well as the destruction of civilian infrastructure, Ukraine plans to give Russia a choice on how to leave Crimea. If they don’t agree to leave voluntarily, Ukraine will continue to liberate its land by military means,” Tasheva added.

Her comments come after Andriy Sybiha, deputy head of the president’s office, gave an interview to the Financial Times in which he said Ukraine might be ready to discuss the future of Crimea with Moscow if Kyiv succeeds in achieving its strategic goals on the battlefield.

Of note:

His planned proposals include the forced relocation of all Russian citizens who moved to Crimea after 2014

[enigma77]

I thought Crimea was the red line for Putin - one even the US ill-advised Ukraine to consider retaking - , but today Ukraine ominously warned Russians to leave it in peace or prepare for huge battle.

KYIV — Ukraine has not changed its plans for the return of territory occupied by Russia, including Crimea.

“Ukraine will choose the way to bring Crimea back, using political and military means,” Tamila Tasheva, the Ukrainian president’s envoy on Crimea, told POLITICO.

“To minimize Ukrainian military losses, minimize threats to civilians who live in occupied territories, as well as the destruction of civilian infrastructure, Ukraine plans to give Russia a choice on how to leave Crimea. If they don’t agree to leave voluntarily, Ukraine will continue to liberate its land by military means,” Tasheva added.

Her comments come after Andriy Sybiha, deputy head of the president’s office, gave an interview to the Financial Times in which he said Ukraine might be ready to discuss the future of Crimea with Moscow if Kyiv succeeds in achieving its strategic goals on the battlefield.

Of note:

His planned proposals include the forced relocation of all Russian citizens who moved to Crimea after 2014

Putin's red lines are a joke, which should be obvious by now. His kingdom of murderers and thieves has no desire to self-destruct in a nuclear holocaust.

[Belize]

Putin's red lines are a joke, which should be obvious by now. His kingdom of murderers and thieves has no desire to self-destruct in a nuclear holocaust.

It's honestly up in the air as to whether they even have nuclear capable anythings anyway.

Their latest show of strength missile test ended in a hilarious failure. I think North Korea currently has them beat in ICBM capabilities, and that's not high praise for NK.

[Zaydin]

It's honestly up in the air as to whether they even have nuclear capable anythings anyway.

Their latest show of strength missile test ended in a hilarious failure. I think North Korea currently has them beat in ICBM capabilities, and that's not high praise for NK.

The problem is that no one wants to risk poking the toothless Russian bear just in case enough of their nukes still work to cause serious damage.

[YUPPIE]

the US once said it would not stop Ukraine from trying to retake Crimea - thus implying there would in fact not be global repercussions (i.e, nukes) but stated it isn't a good move.

I think it's not a good move because conventionally, Crimea is where Russia would make its biggest stand. And we saw how brutal Bahkmut was conventionally.

[Gabriel]

the US once said it would not stop Ukraine from trying to retake Crimea - thus implying there would in fact not be global repercussions (i.e, nukes) but stated it isn't a good move.

I think it's not a good move because conventionally, Crimea is where Russia would make its biggest stand. And we saw how brutal Bahkmut was conventionally.

If Ukraine really wants to take Crimea, they just have to bomb the bridge and the rats will try to swim across to escape.

[Corvus]

Confirmed losses of russian vehicles and heavy equipment on Oryx have now hit 10,000.

[Iphie]

If Ukraine really wants to take Crimea, they just have to bomb the bridge and the rats will try to swim across to escape.

Having looked at the situation and seen analyses I'm pretty sure that's the ticket indeed: cut off the main roads in Kherson, destroy the Kerch bridge and just wait.

[Corvus]

This leak seems to have been pretty major. It might possibly have been done by some traitor with a pro-russian agenda wanting to sow mistrust between the West. Or it could have been done to win an internet debate. Either way someone is going to jail for a long time.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/202...h-massive-leak

A good look of some of what was in it. Ukraine has fired off almost 10000 himars rockets, or almost 20% of all made and have outfitted 9 new brigades for the upcoming counter-offensive. More than 2000 russian tanks have been destroyed and they have only around 400 total left in Ukraine, with another 500 in reserve. Hence the 1955 tanks being reactivated.

And the reticence for supplying atacms and other long range weapons is because of the very real fear if something major in russia got hit then China would solve all russia's ammo problems.

[Veggie50]

Im reading theres evidence that several of the leaked documents were “edited”. Therefore the narrative that this was meant to sow doubts with the west populace is likely.

That also means that doom and gloom messages about ukraine, and subsequent “postive” messaging about russian losses should be taken with a very hefty grain of salt.