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    How close to this turning into a world War now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Logwyn View Post
    How close to this turning into a world War now?
    And what kind of world war would that be? Russia vs. absolutely everyone else, where Russia is struggling to beat just Ukraine?

    The answer is zero chance.

    And don't say nukes. As miscalculated and dumb as this war is, Russian elites will remain, whether Russia wins or loses this war. Nukes guarantee they lose everything, and I'm more than comfortable betting on rich, fat cats not pissing their life of luxury away like that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Logwyn View Post
    How close to this turning into a world War now?
    Who, exactly, is siding with Russia on this matter?

    And I don't mean "willing to use them as a source of cheap fuel," which is about as deep as any other country's allegiances go with Russia. I mean "willing to jeopardize the lives of their countreymen and potentially their national sovereignty to prop up Russia's land-grab attempt that was fucked from the start and has only gotten worse for them at every step"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaleredar View Post
    Who, exactly, is siding with Russia on this matter?

    And I don't mean "willing to use them as a source of cheap fuel," which is about as deep as any other country's allegiances go with Russia. I mean "willing to jeopardize the lives of their countreymen and potentially their national sovereignty to prop up Russia's land-grab attempt that was fucked from the start and has only gotten worse for them at every step"
    I guess everyone on the planet dogpiling against one country is technically a world war.
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    Yeah, there isn't going to be a world war. russia likes to talk about it as it feeds their delusion of still being an important world power rather than a third rate regional power. I'd the curb stomping russia would get is labelled a world war we'd have to relabel a lot of other wars as world wars. The Napoleonic wars far more deserve to be called a world war than anything that happened to russia.

    And to say russia is a superpower because of nukes means you'd have to call NK or Pakistan superpowers too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Logwyn View Post
    How close to this turning into a world War now?
    You mean Russia getting glassed? Pretty low imo.

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    Video of the bomb landing in Belgorod.

    https://twitter.com/wartranslated/st...538045953?s=20

    You can see a car launched onto a nearby roof, it's headlights still on. Not sure how you can say people only took minor injuries.

    What apparently happened was they were trying to launch a glide bomb on Kharkiv but the wings failed to deploy so it did what bombs do and fell.

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    Speaking of bombs:

    Oops another one...

    1 is an accident, 2 is a trend...

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    It seems both came from the same plane. So not only did the second fail to deploy its wings as well, but it also failed to detonate.

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    Ukrainian forces have established positions in east (left) bank of Dnipro in Kherson Oblast as of yesterday.

    lettss goooooo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaleredar View Post
    Who, exactly, is siding with Russia on this matter?

    And I don't mean "willing to use them as a source of cheap fuel," which is about as deep as any other country's allegiances go with Russia. I mean "willing to jeopardize the lives of their countreymen and potentially their national sovereignty to prop up Russia's land-grab attempt that was fucked from the start and has only gotten worse for them at every step"
    Other than China? Nobody.

    China did send "hunting rifles" and body armor to Russia, and there are reportedly more and more Chinese parts in Russian weapons.

    However, even if China were to directly send weapons without simply skirting the thin line of technicalities and loopholes, it wouldn't start WW3 all by itself, that would just lead to more sanctions on China for the most part.

    World War 3 would require something more drastic, like China invading Taiwan, and even then it's still far from a guaranteed thing depending on the way the conflict plays out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iphie View Post
    Speaking of bombs:

    Oops another one...

    1 is an accident, 2 is a trend...
    Well it’s better that they accidentally blow up in Russian then intentionally blow up in Ukrainian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonnysensible View Post
    Ukrainian forces have established positions in east (left) bank of Dnipro in Kherson Oblast as of yesterday.

    lettss goooooo
    ooof ignore this just looked at the map, its marshy swampland, defo no beachhead. the next drive has gotta be in that region tho defo not the donbass

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonnysensible View Post
    ooof ignore this just looked at the map, its marshy swampland, defo no beachhead. the next drive has gotta be in that region tho defo not the donbass
    Possible its an attempt to make the Russians unsure of where the main thrust will come from ahead of the offensive to make them stretch their forces more, but we’ll see in a couple of weeks how it unfolds I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rustedsaint View Post
    Well it’s better that they accidentally blow up in Russian then intentionally blow up in Ukrainian.
    Other than "hey, careful! there's civilians down there!", I won't complain if russian weapons fall on russian territory. (Regardless of what you think of russians in general I don't condone civilian casualties on either side, for whatever reason.)

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    China's ambassador to France has said ex-ussr countries don't have an effective status in international law. In effect he is saying the various Stans, Baltic States Caucasus nations and Ukraine aren't actually sovereign nations.

    https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/...909138945?s=20

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corvus View Post
    China's ambassador to France has said ex-ussr countries don't have an effective status in international law. In effect he is saying the various Stans, Baltic States Caucasus nations and Ukraine aren't actually sovereign nations.

    https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/...909138945?s=20
    Russia itself doesn't have an effective status, then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corvus View Post
    China's ambassador to France has said ex-ussr countries don't have an effective status in international law. In effect he is saying the various Stans, Baltic States Caucasus nations and Ukraine aren't actually sovereign nations.

    https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/...909138945?s=20
    Neither does the insurrectionists on the mainland over the Republic Of China, if that’s the game they want to play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zealo View Post
    Neither does the insurrectionists on the mainland over the Republic Of China, if that’s the game they want to play.
    i believe you are talking about the lands of greater mongolia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonnysensible View Post
    i believe you are talking about the lands of greater mongolia.
    *West Taiwan

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