Russian invasion of Ukraine

[Corvus]

There is the possibility that previous damage and the complete lack of any maintenance may have led to the dam's failure. Still more likely it was deliberate though.

[Azadina]

If I was going to go all tinfoil hat on this... The Russians are preparing to withdraw from Crimea and wanted to kill two birds with one stone:
>Cause a flood that will make it difficult for Ukrainian forces to cross the river and at the same time cause maximum damage to civilian infrastructure down stream
>Destroy any hope of agriculture in Crimea for the next decade

Or they simply just are so fucking stupid that they didn't realize how dependant Crimea was on that dam.

I fully expect Crimea to be liberated, but I'm not convinced that Putler the great dick is going to willingly withdraw, without even sacrificing most if not all the trash minions in the area to hold it.

[Kallisto]

There is the possibility that previous damage and the complete lack of any maintenance may have led to the dam's failure. Still more likely it was deliberate though.

At the moment it could be that, which would still be full on Russia's fault.

Atm there's no video of the explosion, the one that's been going around was shown to be from no later than November. Which still could be the cause of it as damage over time effect.

[Gabriel]

So the bots have had their marching orders from Kremlin. The narrative the vatniks are pushing is that the dam burst due to Ukrainians neglecting to upkeep it combined with it being damaged by Ukrainian attack.

[Elder Millennial]

The Ukrainians would have had nothing to gain from blowing the dam. It hinders their operations in the region and will allow the Russians to move forces further up north.

This does, at least for the time being benefit the RuZZkis, but as others have said, on the medium to long term this will seriously mess with the sustainability of the Crimean occupation.

But to be honest, I don't think the Muscovites give a damn about the serfs on periphery of their miserable robber baron empire as we have already seen around Belgorod.

[Iphie]

So the bots have had their marching orders from Kremlin. The narrative the vatniks are pushing is that the dam burst due to Ukrainians neglecting to upkeep it combined with it being damaged by Ukrainian attack.

How....the fuck...

[Saradain]

How....the fuck...

Well, it is hard to upkeep something that has been mined for a year and under Nazi Russia occupation...

Russian "truths" in russian world

[Iphie]

Well, it is hard to upkeep something that has been mined for a year and under Nazi Russia occupation...

Russian "truths" in russian world

I was unclear, that was on me XD Seriously though no one in their right mind, not even russians, can believe this...right? (who am I kidding, ruzzians will eat it up.)

[Saradain]

I was unclear, that was on me XD Seriously though no one in their right mind, not even russians, can believe this...right? (who am I kidding, ruzzians will eat it up.)

Desperate times for desperate enemy of the free world. Russian cohorts can simp for Nazi Russia all they desire, once they outlive their usefulness, Putin is not afraid of sacrificing them without a second thought. A pity some of those cohorts do not live anywhere near Russia...Easy to simp for something that has no way of killing you.

[Wilian]

This sort of thing like the dam is on such a scale that it should call for formation of international coalition to shove Russia out of Ukraine finally.

[Gorsameth]

This sort of thing like the dam is on such a scale that it should call for formation of international coalition to shove Russia out of Ukraine finally.

It won't. Because the #1 goal is to prevent a direct war between the West and Russia that could lead to nuclear escalation.

It might get Ukraine more support. But at no point does the West want to put soldiers in Ukraine in a position where they might have to shoot at Russians.

[Wilian]

It won't. Because the #1 goal is to prevent a direct war between the West and Russia that could lead to nuclear escalation.

It might get Ukraine more support. But at no point does the West want to put soldiers in Ukraine in a position where they might have to shoot at Russians.

I know we won't do it but we SHOULD do it.

[YUPPIE]

This sort of thing like the dam is on such a scale that it should call for formation of international coalition to shove Russia out of Ukraine finally.

It just more or less proves Russia can get away with anything of no real consequence. A few days again ironically someone asked if Russia would risk Hungary's wrath even incidentally, well this answers that basically (yes)

[Kallisto]

It just more or less proves Russia can get away with anything of no real consequence. A few days again ironically someone asked if Russia would risk Hungary's wrath even incidentally, well this answers that basically (yes)

Because your consequence idea is basically 8 billion people on this planet turning into a few million. That's not a viable solution.

[Gorsameth]

It just more or less proves Russia can get away with anything of no real consequence. A few days again ironically someone asked if Russia would risk Hungary's wrath even incidentally, well this answers that basically (yes)

Pretty sure Russia is facing real consequences, both at home and in Ukraine...

[ItsRainingMetal]

Man. If Russia keeps threatening the integrity of that nuclear power plant, then I really don't mind if NATO decides to move in and secure it by any means necessary. That shit is a threat to the neightbouring countries as well.

[Kallisto]

I have no idea tbh. The Ukrainians probably took the credit so they could go neener neener at the Russians.


The Russians might have filled the reservoir to the brim on purpose before blowing up the dam to cause maximum flooding.

God if this turns out that they overfilled the reservoir and the whole thing collapsed due to stupidity from it, since there was a note of damage happening to the dam in the last few days I genuinely wouldn't be surprised.

[YUPPIE]

Because your consequence idea is basically 8 billion people on this planet turning into a few million. That's not a viable solution.

it's like the other posters have said, sitting back and just "condemning" Russia isn't doing shit either.

And they know it too, so that's why they did something as frankly audacious and reckless as this.

[Edge-]

it's like the other posters have said, sitting back and just "condemning" Russia isn't doing shit either.

And they know it too, so that's why they did something as frankly audacious and reckless as this.

Wait, is Russia's economy doing good now or something? Is the country doing well?

[Gorsameth]

it's like the other posters have said, sitting back and just "condemning" Russia isn't doing shit either.

And they know it too, so that's why they did something as frankly audacious and reckless as this.

Not doing shit?
I must have imagined Russia's army dying in Ukraine, their zombie economy, their international image shattered and China gobbling up their 'allies' in Central Asia.

Sure I wish we did more but the notion that Russia is not suffering consequences is plain ludicrous.