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    Quote Originally Posted by Gabriel View Post
    He'll get shipped off to Hague if he dares to exist Russia. If I was Putin, I'd start looking for a handgun.
    I mean if prigozhin really wants to make a grand gesture and get sanctions lifted then he hands putin over...if he wins which is not a certainty *quite* yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    if Putin is ousted from Russia, would he be hunted down abroad?
    Awww poor Putin, didn't go the way you hoped for your idol it seems.

    And yes, if he shows his face in any civilized country he will be arrested.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iphie View Post
    I mean if prigozhin really wants to make a grand gesture and get sanctions lifted then he hands putin over...if he wins which is not a certainty *quite* yet.
    Yeah I doubt we have to worry about it just yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    if Putin is ousted from Russia, would he be hunted down abroad?
    I can't imagine any country would be willing to burn themselves on offering refuge to an ousted Putin.
    It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gorsameth View Post
    I can't imagine any country would be willing to burn themselves on offering refuge to an ousted Putin.
    Argentina is a popular resort for his ilk...Maybe he can rub elbows with Zorreguieta

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gorsameth View Post
    I can't imagine any country would be willing to burn themselves on offering refuge to an ousted Putin.
    Iran, North Korea, China, Saudi Arabia, South Africa, Cuba, Syria

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    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    Iran, North Korea, China, Saudi Arabia, South Africa, Cuba, Syria

    Thing is, what do they gain by doing it? What can Putin offer more then some money perhaps, but why would they risk alienating the new power in Russia for money

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    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    Iran, North Korea, China, Saudi Arabia, South Africa, Cuba, Syria
    At least half of those countries wouldn't want him. NK is probably the only real option.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kreuger View Post
    Thing is, what do they gain by doing it? What can Putin offer more then some money perhaps, but why would they risk alienating the new power in Russia for money
    money, classified information on enemy nations, classified information on Russian WMDs, dirt on his usurper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    money, classified information on enemy nations, classified information on Russian WMDs, dirt on his usurper.
    Might be enough, who knows. Would guess not but will be interessting to follow for sure

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kreuger View Post
    Might be enough, who knows. Would guess not but will be interesting to follow for sure
    no one alive is more knowledgeable than Putin on geopolitics and espionage from how much he's meddled in and ruined countries all over the world in his 70 years of life. More than his cove of trillions, people that would want to house him will want to pry him open like a pinata for all he knows, especially the likes of Saudi Arabia. Remember Saudi Arabia is where Idi Amin lived in comfortable exile until naturally passing.

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    Not sure what kadyrovs tiktok brigade thinks they can do. They are at best militia for the suppression of civilians equipped with little more than APCs going up against soldiers with tanks and artillery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    no one alive is more knowledgeable than Putin on geopolitics and espionage from how much he's meddled in and ruined countries all over the world in his 70 years of life. More than his cove of trillions, people that would want to house him will want to pry him open like a pinata for all he knows, especially the likes of Saudi Arabia. Remember Saudi Arabia is where Idi Amin lived in comfortable exile until naturally passing.
    Thats assuming he actually is that mastermind the world has made him out to be and that he can provide this intelligence.

    Still, hes gotta have something huge for anyone to touch him if he tries to run to exile, he is as toxic as can be and you can be pretty sure any country that accepts him in will face some troubles

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    Russian media is reporting pootie is preparing to declare martial law.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kreuger View Post
    Thing is, what do they gain by doing it? What can Putin offer more then some money perhaps, but why would they risk alienating the new power in Russia for money
    Well, hear me out.

    How about accepting the money and then after Putin has a window-accident handing over him?

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    Kyiv in 3 days has become Moscow in 3 days.
    Ex-Mod. Technically retired, they just won't let me quit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YUPPIE View Post
    no one alive is more knowledgeable than Putin on geopolitics and espionage
    Which is clearly demonstrated in the way we're now on day 485 of the Special 3-Day Operation in Ukraine. /s

    Maybe stop uncritically deep-throating Russian propaganda for once in your natural life, yeah?
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    The world is not divided between East and West. You are American, I am Iranian, we don't know each other, but we talk and understand each other perfectly. The difference between you and your government is much bigger than the difference between you and me. And the difference between me and my government is much bigger than the difference between me and you. And our governments are very much the same.

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    Wagnerites are getting closer and closer to Moscow, thing is, you cannot hold a 11m city with 20k soldiers, while fighting the government, while holding Rostov.

    The defense of the city will be done by the police and other lightly armed forces. Russian institutional incompetence will make them take days to prepare a force to deal with Wagner. So the defense of Moscow can delay the advancement of the Mercs for a few days. Maybe.

    I don't see the mercs taking Moscow or deposing Putin, at most the can negotiate the early retirement of Shoigu and the other clowns on the ministry of defense. But who knows, the leader of Wagner is a well known criminal, and criminals are unpredictable

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elegiac View Post
    Which is clearly demonstrated in the way we're now on day 486 of the Special 3-Day Operation in Ukraine. /s
    The US has the best military on the world. Still failed to defeat the Taliban. You can be the best and still fail
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vonazak View Post
    The US has the best military on the world. Still failed to defeat the Taliban. You can be the best and still fail
    Putin is not "the best", however, for a variety of reasons including but not limited to his massive overestimation of his military's own capabilities and his massive underestimation of Ukraine's resolve to resist.
    Quote Originally Posted by Marjane Satrapi
    The world is not divided between East and West. You are American, I am Iranian, we don't know each other, but we talk and understand each other perfectly. The difference between you and your government is much bigger than the difference between you and me. And the difference between me and my government is much bigger than the difference between me and you. And our governments are very much the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forogil View Post
    Well, hear me out.

    How about accepting the money and then after Putin has a window-accident handing over him?
    You sold me on that scenario

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