Russian invasion of Ukraine

[Kallisto]

It's a pretty much everywhere thing. People act like "It won't happen to me." until it does. Easter/Western Europe, Americas, Asia, Africa etc. It's a people are fucking stupid on a level that transcends borders thing.

[Xyonai]

Putin has called it a terrorist act, which really shows how desperate he is to retain control of the narrative. Ten years ago, Putin wouldn't have mentioned this, he'd just have had a bunch of people killed. Now, he needs people to agree with him, so he's labeling the attack "terrorism".

"Wasn't it technically terrorism?"

If a soldier of an invading country comes into my house to kill me, and I kill him in self-defense, that's technically using violence to resolve a political situation, but in the same way Velveeta is technically cheese. The label is meaningless in this context. Ukraine is being invaded by an unprovoked aggressor and they're retaliating.

I mean, he called the last attack on the bridge Terrorism too, then procceeded to bomb a fucktonn of Ukranian civilian centers in retaliation because irony is dead.

I just remember that very clearly because of someone in these forums being incredibly smug about Russia's deliberate targeting and murdering of civilians. A part of me wonders if they're still around, lurking on these forums. A another part hopes that Russia's continual botch of this military operation is making them miserable because gloating about civilian casualties is a cunt move.

[Gorsameth]

That and they've been stealing millions of tonns of the stuff anyway they don't get anything out of making their situation worse (or giving someone am excuse to fire on their own grain ships).

Though I think Turkye said they're gonna pick up the slack on the grain deal so we'll see how that goes.

I wonder if this is actually why they are now scrapping the deal. They wanted it last year to allow them to export the stolen Ukraine grain, and since they probably fucked up farming on their side of the conflict line they don't have tons of stolen Ukrainian grain they need to ship this year. So the deal is of no benefit to them.

[Corvus]

So far this year three quarters of grain purchased by the UN food relief agency has come from Ukraine. However, it isn't Ukraine's biggest customer - that would be China, and they want the deal to continue.

Methinks pootie may get another dressing down from Xi soon. The last thing China wants, on top of its economic problems, is food problems.

[Edge-]

https://twitter.com/DavidSacks/statu...83259944402944

yo, if y'all want some laughs go check out david sacks twitter account

I guess he's twitters unofficial official analyst on the war and is just a bundle of the absolute worst hot-takes a super rich tech bro who thinks they know everything can be.

seriously, with idiots like this I'm not sure russia needs to spend anything on western propaganda efforts rofl

[jonnysensible]

looks like traffic has resumed on the bridge 2 lanes still ok.

russia nixing the grain deal provides a key opening to send some more naval drones out along the lane that will be open.

[Corvus]

Not a chance I'd be using the bridge. The whole span got shifted out of position.

[jonnysensible]

Not a chance I'd be using the bridge. The whole span got shifted out of position.

looks ok just the road fell off again, 2 lanes are open trains running

[Corvus]

The 2 lanes supposedly open were shifted out of alignment by the blast. No sane country would use the bridge until repairs were made.

[jonnysensible]

The 2 lanes supposedly open were shifted out of alignment by the blast. No sane country would use the bridge until repairs were made.

theyve stuck a ramp on it and people are driving across https://twitter.com/KevinRothrock/st...10964429520898

[Kaleredar]

theyve stuck a ramp on it and people are driving across https://twitter.com/KevinRothrock/st...10964429520898

"Bridge that's known to be the target of active missile strikes is repaired with ramp as half of it sloughs off into the sea" would not be my chosen route of transportation, personally.

I know the Russian government doesn't have much choice. But civilians? You gotta be nuts.

[YUPPIE]

one of the things I find interesting is the world is very inclined to leak Russian positions in the war

[Gabriel]

one of the things I find interesting is the world is very inclined to leak Russian positions in the war

What are you talking about?

[Kaleredar]

What are you talking about?

Clearly, this crosses a red line with Russia, and it will incur Putin's unbridled wrath!


I'm gonna guess that's approximately their answer.

[YUPPIE]

What are you talking about?

like with Ukraine, the world pleads to not talk about their activities, strategy, and where they are of course. Most of the world obliges.

With Russia, it's like the complete opposite. People just try all they can to leak information and go "kill em all!"

[Edge-]

like with Ukraine, the world pleads to not talk about their activities, strategy, and where they are of course. Most of the world obliges.

With Russia, it's like the complete opposite. People just try all they can to leak information and go "kill em all!"

yeah, because one is the side being invaded and the other side are the invaders

haven't we been talking about this for the past year?

[zealo]

like with Ukraine, the world pleads to not talk about their activities, strategy, and where they are of course. Most of the world obliges.

With Russia, it's like the complete opposite. People just try all they can to leak information and go "kill em all!"

Do you really need it explained to you why people who don’t support Russia’s invasion aren’t as careful about disseminating information about their military operations?

[alach]

Russia seizes control of Danone, Carlsberg assets

Moscow has seized control of the Russian subsidiaries of French yogurt maker Danone and Danish brewer Carlsberg, highlighting risks facing foreign firms that continue to do business in the country.

In a decree signed by Russian President Vladimir Putin Sunday, foreign-owned stakes in Danone’s Russia business, and Carlsberg’s stake in local brewer Baltika were put under the “temporary management” of Russia’s federal property agency.

The decision follows a decree Putin signed in April that allows the government to place foreign assets in the country under its temporary control if Russian assets abroad are seized or threatened.

Serves them right, they should have left at the start.

[Veggie50]

Yuppie does not understand that we are not neutral

[Gabriel]

like with Ukraine, the world pleads to not talk about their activities, strategy, and where they are of course. Most of the world obliges.

With Russia, it's like the complete opposite. People just try all they can to leak information and go "kill em all!"

And this surprises you?