Russian invasion of Ukraine

[Machismo]

Russia has formally declared war just now. I knew this was coming.

Well, you are on record supporting such actions. So, you must be happy.

[Shadowferal]

Probing force to see how Europe reacts. Coming on the heels of a statement that Russia and OPEC will increase oil output.

[YUPPIE]

Well, you are on record supporting such actions. So, you must be happy.

no, what I am upset about most is how up until this day, people just dismissed it as sabre rattling or people being outraged for no reason. I've been saying this day would come for *years*

[Machismo]

no, what I am upset about most is how up until this day, people just dismissed it as sabre rattling or people being outraged for no reason. I've been saying this day would come for *years*

You are the one who wanted a "strong badass" as a leader.

Don't try and whine about what you asked for.

[Orange Joe]

Russia has formally declared war just now. I knew this was coming.

Trying to find a source but can't?

[Ivanstone]

no, what I am upset about most is how up until this day, people just dismissed it as sabre rattling or people being outraged for no reason. I've been saying this day would come for *years*

YOU'RE RIGHT! I'M VERY, VERY SORRY FOR MOCKING YOUR MASTURBATION FANTASIES!!!!

Now we get to see the Russian military machine face plant against a weaker force or Putin pulling out at the last second.

[Orange Joe]

Russia has formally declared war just now. I knew this was coming.

So just googled again "russia declared war"


No results?

[YUPPIE]

Trying to find a source but can't?

here I grabbed a few citations while reading over them, though the topic shouldn't be too hard to find right now

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/r...-time-rcna7203
https://www.rt.com/russia/541955-mil...ine-territory/

[Orange Joe]

here I grabbed a few citations while reading over them, though the topic shouldn't be too hard to find right now though

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/r...-time-rcna7203
https://www.rt.com/russia/541955-mil...ine-territory/

I'm not reading that he declared war. I did catch this part though.

Putin has deployed more than 90,000 troops along Russia’s border with Ukraine, matching the force that he sent and withdrew in the spring.

This is called saber rattling and you fell for it 100%

[Lenonis]

here I grabbed a few citations while reading over them, though the topic shouldn't be too hard to find right now

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/r...-time-rcna7203
https://www.rt.com/russia/541955-mil...ine-territory/

Your definition of "formally declares war" needs some work.

[YUPPIE]

Now we get to see the Russian military machine face plant against a weaker force.

hasn't it been stressed enough lately by NATO that, should Russia ever go through with their threats against Ukraine, they would face America's wrath?

[Orange Joe]

hasn't it been stressed enough lately by NATO that, should Russia ever go through with their threats against Ukraine, they would face America's wrath?

Do you not understand what M.A.D. is?

[YUPPIE]

Do you not understand what M.A.D. is?

I don't think you can wave that card around forever. At which point would you put your foot down, then? On hypothetical extremes: If Putin invaded Ukraine and began torturing everyone there, and he said "if any Western powers intervene, I will nuke you, but until then we're neutral" would we still cow down to that? It's important to consider these hypothetical scenarios because we're so close to conflict right now.

[Easo]

Russia has formally declared war just now. I knew this was coming.

What the hell are you talking about? There has not been any declaration of war, nor, more importantly, anything of note has happened at all.

I don't think you can wave that card around forever. At which point would you put your foot down, then? On hypothetical extremes: If Putin invaded Ukraine and began torturing everyone there, and he said "if any Western powers intervene, I will nuke you, but until then we're neutral" would we still cow down to that? It's important to consider these hypothetical scenarios because we're so close to conflict right now.

West will not fight Russia over Ukraine. There is no legal reason to, what would happen is more punishing sanctions and increasing rearmament of NATO.

[Orange Joe]

I don't think you can wave that card around forever. At which point would you put your foot down, then? On hypothetical extremes: If Putin invaded Ukraine and began torturing everyone there, and he said "if any Western powers intervene, I will nuke you, but until then we're neutral" would we still cow down to that? It's important to consider these hypothetical scenarios because we're so close to conflict right now.

At a point where we would actually be saving more lives than killing.


There is no point if we end up killing more than we would save.

[Elegiac]

Do you not understand what M.A.D. is?

Why are we asking that question when it's clear they don't even know what a declaration of war is.

Rofl.

[Mekh]

hasn't it been stressed enough lately by NATO that, should Russia ever go through with their threats against Ukraine, they would face America's wrath?

/r/thathappened

[YUPPIE]

West will not fight Russia over Ukraine.

why do we keep saying we will then? Often along the remarks of protecting democracy and Ukraine's sovereignty

[Orange Joe]

why do we keep saying we will then?

Why do you keep saying Russia is invading when they aren't?

[YUPPIE]

Why do you keep saying Russia is invading when they aren't?

they're fixed on the border right now with weapons ready