Russian invasion of Ukraine

[noremorze]

What's off is that prices quadrupled. It went from 100 euros for the exact same amount of kWh and cubic meters of gas to 480. In my apartment I pay 14 eurocents per kWh. But that's a fixed price. Energy suppliers don't offer those anymore, only variable. And that's currently at 77 eurocents per KWh.

When you want to change supplier this is what they are going to charge you with for a small 3 person household:

It's in Dutch but I think you can figure out what it says.

It's kinda funny that we have several people who don't even live here tell you that you did your calculations wrong or that we live in castles. I'm in a similar situation as your friend, but without kids. I have a variable contract, but one from the big 3, where I've been for years now. Luckily my monthly payment "only" went up 20 euros, the new price includes the 400 euro that we need to pay less in energy tax. The people here that claimed you were wrong also simply can't understand that alot of people don't have a choice, they can't move places. And people with low income are also the ones who end up in poorly isolated houses. I'm cutting back on gas consumption where I can, but it's also poorly isolated and I'm just not gonna go sit in the cold. Prices will change again this June I think, hopefully things have changed a bit and that the goverment came up with some solutions. Thank God we had a winter like this one this time around.

[Iphie]

What's off is that prices quadrupled. It went from 100 euros for the exact same amount of kWh and cubic meters of gas to 480. In my apartment I pay 14 eurocents per kWh. But that's a fixed price. Energy suppliers don't offer those anymore, only variable. And that's currently at 77 eurocents per KWh.

It's in Dutch but I think you can figure out what it says.

Jezus te paard...I'm so glad I left when I did.

[P for Pancetta]

It's kinda funny that we have several people who don't even live here tell you that you did your calculations wrong or that we live in castles. I'm in a similar situation as your friend, but without kids. I have a variable contract, but one from the big 3, where I've been for years now. Luckily my monthly payment "only" went up 20 euros, the new price includes the 400 euro that we need to pay less in energy tax. The people here that claimed you were wrong also simply can't understand that alot of people don't have a choice, they can't move places. And people with low income are also the ones who end up in poorly isolated houses. I'm cutting back on gas consumption where I can, but it's also poorly isolated and I'm just not gonna go sit in the cold. Prices will change again this June I think, hopefully things have changed a bit and that the goverment came up with some solutions. Thank God we had a winter like this one this time around.

I luckily had air-conditioning installed for the summers, now using them to heat the house instead of using the CV is much cheaper.

[noremorze]

I'm a bit unlucky, not so long ago they upgraded alot of houses here, with solar panels etc. But, my street has some houses that were put up for sale many years ago, so they're not all rental. And now it didn't get upgraded because of that.

People who were on yearly contracts are really getting screwed hard. I used to change every year myself, because of the bonus, but since I was lazy, I couldn't be bothered. And I'm so glad I didn't, my price only went up 20 ish euros, I've cut back on gas a little bit (I still have it set to the same temperature in my living room) and thanks to the warm winter, I'll get more than 250 euros back if things stay the same as they are now. There is such a huge contrast between what people have to pay, they really need to step in and help those who need it the most out.

[Azadina]

Guys. I finally figured it out. I finally understand what this war is really about. It's the gays! Putin is saving humanity from the gays!

https://www.newsweek.com/russian-ort...-pride-1685636

How could I miss this? Of course, naturally. This is a crusade to save civilization from the gays.

Russia seems like complete utopia for Republicans and Trump voters, in every way.

[noremorze]

Jesus Christ, just checked what I would have to pay monthly for the same usage as last year: 434,85 euro. How the fuck am I gonna pay for that? That's impossible for me and my situation. And no, I don't live in a castle, but a small house. This is the current price for gas, including taxes as of today: € 3,151106 per m³ for a new contract. What the actual fuck.

[Crispin]

Hahah...

Yes, spreading the light of democracy and happiness to them natives. The usual altruistic motives, what else could it possibly be.

It was all another chapter in a shitty game of who has the biggest schlong and Russia took the bait like fools. You think anyone who pulled this off truly gave a damn about Ukraine over something like re-alligning the flagging western allies around the mothership on a path to the showdown with China?

Ukraine is a tool that did its job and magnificently at that. It really really could not be any better for US, I think the only better outcome would be if elites would bump off Putin and drive westwards, heck chances of that increased given the results.

What exactly do you think the US or even NATO gains from this? Higher prices at the gas pumps? What a brilliant plan!

Don't tell me that you're one of thoose tools, who thinks the west is playing 4D chess, for a Russian invasion in 2075, so we can steal all their oil and gas, when we're all driving electric cars and trucks powered by solar and wind power.

[Vorkreist]

It's kinda funny that we have several people who don't even live here tell you that you did your calculations wrong

I think its mostly americans with that attitude. They don't understand what this means for europe and rest of the world soon enough considering the incoming effects of such high oil prices. The recession that's coming will make 2008 look like nothing.

[Gaidax]

What exactly do you think the US or even NATO gains from this?

Are you kidding with this question?

Out of all this mess the biggest beneficiary by far is US, amazing opportunity to bring various stumbling sheep into the fold. As for NATO - self-explanatory, in-between greater military spending, the 2% and sudden more relevance. And both gain a lot with Russia in a hole which it got into.

Like really, bruh...

[Shadowferal]

Are you kidding with this question? Out of all this mess the biggest beneficiary by far is US, amazing opportunity to bring various stumbling sheep into the fold. As for NATO - self-explanatory, in-between greater military spending, the 2% and sudden more relevance. And both gain a lot with Russia in a hole which it got into. Like really, bruh...

So...what of it?

[Bakis]

Somwhat obvious that it is just a matter of when Finlands joins NATO.

I know Finland would like to join along with Sweden given our close ties but Sweden just started on its monumental shift towards majority for joining unlike Finland which this last (5th war by Putin) became the straw that broke the camels back and its formalia once they decide to do so.
So lets presume Putins fear of a defensive pact is anywhere near as high priority as it is for him to create a greater Russia he certainly failed on that point.
Ontop of that he made both EU and NATO hitting a never before seen consensus regarding his Russia.

Then again his main priority is to create his version of lebensraum he wont care if civilians in either Ukraine or Russia die and suffer nor if russian soldiers dies the tens of thousands.

[Gaidax]

So...what of it?

Nothing, good going.

Which was my point. Great setup, champagnes well earned.

[Xarkan]

I think its mostly americans with that attitude. They don't understand what this means for europe and rest of the world soon enough considering the incoming effects of such high oil prices. The recession that's coming will make 2008 look like nothing.

Slant (one of those claiming he did the math wrong) is German though as far as i know

Yeah, you did the maths wrong. That's an annual price if anything. Typically you'd pay something like 50-80 bucks/months for the type of consumption and m³ he has.

[Shadowferal]

Nothing, good going. Which was my point. Great setup, champagnes well earned.

[Azadina]

Nothing, good going.

Which was my point. Great setup, champagnes well earned.

There's more to life than everything being 67D chess CIA espionage spygame.

[Saradain]

Evacuation of ukrainian city of Izjum is halted because of russian bombardment. Nothing new, just posting these randomly to ensure pro-russian shills are drowned eventually.

[Corvus]

This is a video of Putins recent visit to Lukashenko. The first bit got cut out by Russian media, but pay close attention to his right hand and leg.

https://twitter.com/bobham88/status/1499649678278807560

[Crispin]

Are you kidding with this question?

Out of all this mess the biggest beneficiary by far is US, amazing opportunity to bring various stumbling sheep into the fold. As for NATO - self-explanatory, in-between greater military spending, the 2% and sudden more relevance. And both gain a lot with Russia in a hole which it got into.

Like really, bruh...

To accomplish what exactly? You've still failed to present what you think is a goal. Making NATO relevant and to get other countries to spend 2% for? What invasion do you see the US plan through NATO here?

There's no 4D chess going on, just so Russians can get in the bread line.

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This is a video of Putins recent visit to Lukashenko. The first bit got cut out by Russian media, but pay close attention to his right hand and leg.

https://twitter.com/bobham88/status/1499649678278807560

Too much coke.

[Breccia]

This is a video of Putins recent visit to Lukashenko.

Let's not be too hasty. Remember "Clinton had a stroke"? If Putin is really sick or dying, we'll see more evidence soon enough.

On topic: Starscream heading to Ukraine

One of the most famous Transformers, the infamously cunning but cowardly Deceptic....hold on.

(checks headline)

StarSTREAK heading to Ukraine.

In the vague family with Patriot missiles, Star Streak is a portable anti-aircraft surface-to-air missile launcher. The missiles aren't the most powerful weapon on the planet, but they don't have to be, 1kg of tungsten moving at Mach Fucking Four would wreck a jet even if it was just a solid slug. Fast-moving aircraft don't like having holes torn in their wings, fuel tanks, or fuselage. But they also don't like when a hole torn in their wing, fuel tank, or fuselage then explodes into armor-piercing shrapnel. Which the Star Streak does.

Not only is the Star Streak capable of hitting a target up to 23,000 feet and swerving at 9 G's -- more than enough in this context -- they're also intentionally built to be much harder to jam. And they can run on batteries, meaning they could pop up anywhere.

The UK is supplying these, as well as a large amount of humanitarian aid.

[Iliena]

Russia destroys Mariupol children's hospital in airstrike

Russia has destroyed a children's hospital in the besieged port city of Mariupol in the south-east of Ukraine, the city council has claimed in a Facebook post.

In a statement issued on Wednesday afternoon, officials alleged that "Russian occupying forces have dropped several bombs on the children's hospital. The destruction is colossal".

Council officials added that they do not yet know exact casualty numbers.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/worl...ost_type=share

Yep I will suck up the extra fuel costs FU Putin!