Russian invasion of Ukraine

[Yunru]

So this happened on russan TV. It doesnt look like propaganda/fake to me.

This woman would be a good president for Russa.

[jonnysensible]

Can't imagine the market for MREs are big enough to auction them. Even for other countries, wouldn't it be cheaper to produce?

one ration = 2 days of food for one person = 3USD. Get outside the big cities and Russia is very impoverished. Good deal tbh.

[Gorsameth]

So this happened on russan TV. It doesnt look like propaganda/fake to me.

This woman would be a good president for Russa.

You'd have to dig her out of a Siberian gulag first. Assuming she will still be alive in the first place.

[PACOX]

Can't imagine the market for MREs are big enough to auction them. Even for other countries, wouldn't it be cheaper to produce?

You underestimate the MRE market my friend. MREs aren't exactly available to people outside of a military despite there being a dedicated market of preppers, enthusiasts, collectors, and people who are simply curious willing to pay a premium for them.

Quality MREs fit for a modern military require infrastructure and logistics in place to produce. If you happen to find yourself sanctioned by most of the war in a poorly planned war then its likely cheaper to import surpluses from others.

[dextersmith]

You underestimate the MRE market my friend. MREs aren't exactly available to people outside of a military despite there being a dedicated market of preppers, enthusiasts, collectors, and people who are simply curious willing to pay a premium for them.

Quality MREs fit for a modern military require infrastructure and logistics in place to produce. If you happen to find yourself sanctioned by most of the war in a poorly planned war then its likely cheaper to import surpluses from others.

I've only ever tasted one and it wasn't great nor awful, but it's so much better than going hungry.

[Mihalik]

Can't imagine the market for MREs are big enough to auction them. Even for other countries, wouldn't it be cheaper to produce?

You'd be shocked how hard it is to feed an army. Especially one on deployment. For weeks to months.

In this case, that's somewhere around 300 thousandish soldiers who all need about 3 meals or 2500 cals a day just to literally not starve in a matter of days. That's about 900,000 meals...a day. We're going on 20 days now...that's about 18 million meals. That's a lot of fucking food. Even assuming they aren't all MREs, all probably a lot of it is either field kitchens, commercially available stuff etc.

MRE production is also not something that can be cranked up easily as under normal circumstance you just don't need that much of them. Western powers tend to have larger production volumes because MRE makers also produce stuff that is donated as food aid and emergency rations for civilians and such.

They probably never had huge stockpiles of them in the first place. Taking into account the normal graft and corruption in Russia, a good percentage of those MREs only exist on paper as they were either never made or some were straight up stolen. Add to that the Russians were on "exercises" for weeks before the invasion...they probably never had enough of them anyway.

[Slant]

Yes, Russia clearly has spent all of their firepower. Clearly. That's the reason Kiev has basically not been bombed at all and that's why Russia has thousands upon thousands of unused vehicles not involved in this war. Clearly.
I think the hype is getting too far.

So, I'm not sure if you're aware of this, but Russia is literally running out of gas trying to reach Kyiv. Not sure your sarcasm is warranted. I'm not pulling this out of my ass, there are literally hundreds if not thousands of vehicles littering the streets to Kyiv to prove my point.

https://www.newsweek.com/how-many-ta...kraine-1687207

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I know you are half joking but McCarthyism was one of the darkest times in US history many lives were ruined just for propaganda.

You say that unironically while native American and black graves start rumbling from all the revolving bodies...

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Was hilarious seeing this news the other day, followed immediately by reporting on him blaming Kamala Harris for this invasion.

Yes, the Vice President is apparently all to blame for this.

Seriously, we need Tucker Carlson to testify in front of Congress that he's an American who loves America.

You should have him testify if he thinks he qualifies as a human being capable of original thought. If not, shoot him like the dog he is.

[Zaydin]

Not sure if it has been posted yet, but Putin has signed into law a bill that will allow Russia to seize Western-owned airliners that were leased to Russian airlines.

This, of course, effectively guarantees that Boeing and AirBus are never going to do business with Russia again. Or any other civilian aircraft manufacturer that isn't in Russia itself. Russia can't get the replacement parts needed to keep the planes flying, either, unless they are willing to get extorted on the black market given how worthless the ruble is now.

[Slant]

What is it with you and your ongoing hard-on for nuclear war? You barely make it through a post without lovingly describing how one country will be vapourising another in the near future.

Kids man... they have no understanding of suffering, cos their parents still shelter them from harm. In his mind, all of this is basically just another episode of CoD and he's probably waking up every morning giddy with excitement on how this video game plays out...

[Draco-Onis]

You say that unironically while native American and black graves start rumbling from all the revolving bodies...

If there's one thing American history is not short on is darkness.

[Slant]

You'd be shocked how hard it is to feed an army. Especially one on deployment. For weeks to months.

In this case, that's somewhere around 300 thousandish soldiers who all need about 3 meals or 2500 cals a day just to literally not starve in a matter of days. That's about 900,000 meals...a day. We're going on 20 days now...that's about 18 million meals. That's a lot of fucking food. Even assuming they aren't all MREs, all probably a lot of it is either field kitchens, commercially available stuff etc.

MRE production is also not something that can be cranked up easily as under normal circumstance you just don't need that much of them. Western powers tend to have larger production volumes because MRE makers also produce stuff that is donated as food aid and emergency rations for civilians and such.

They probably never had huge stockpiles of them in the first place. Taking into account the normal graft and corruption in Russia, a good percentage of those MREs only exist on paper as they were either never made or some were straight up stolen. Add to that the Russians were on "exercises" for weeks before the invasion...they probably never had enough of them anyway.

Of course, this all gets mitigated by WW2 type Russian strategic thinking. So instead of 18 million meals you're looking at about 6 million bowls of soup and pieces of bread with large amounts of vodka. Oh and of course they rely on pillaging, because... scorched Earth is the only thing Russia is good at.

[jonnysensible]

so hang on the FSB generals that got arrested....There was a plan to cultivate assets within Ukraine. Russia spent billions recruiting Ukranians organizations/people to make a smooth transition when they took over. This was going on for years.

Only problem was the money was just being stolen and whomever was cultivating the assets was like 'yup Ukraine will welcome Russian invasion'.

You do have to love russian corruption and graft. I would laugh but this level of corruption is infecting British politics (its getting more brazen at least)

[Slant]

If there's one thing American history is not short on is darkness.

Hello, haaave you met Europe?

Calm down. You're a baby nation and far from real darkness. You've still got plenty of time to fuck it up. Heck, you've barely destroyed the world as we know it yet.

[Poopymonster]

Hello, haaave you met Europe?

Calm down. You're a baby nation and far from real darkness. You've still got plenty of time to fuck it up. Heck, you've barely destroyed the world as we know it yet.

Sorry, we're trying to speedrun that shit.

[Rasulis]

I think Telegram will soon follow the fate of Instagram.

[Slant]

Sorry, we're trying to speedrun that shit.

You're not making life easy on yourself, what with turning on hard mode with all those human rights and liberties and stuff...

[uuuhname]

ha ha... yeah it's not enough to still have the residual 9/11 fearmongering, let's reach back and compound it. that always accomplishes things.

[Templar 331]

Not sure if it has been posted yet, but Putin has signed into law a bill that will allow Russia to seize Western-owned airliners that were leased to Russian airlines.

This, of course, effectively guarantees that Boeing and AirBus are never going to do business with Russia again. Or any other civilian aircraft manufacturer that isn't in Russia itself. Russia can't get the replacement parts needed to keep the planes flying, either, unless they are willing to get extorted on the black market given how worthless the ruble is now.

So what's to stop those airliners from taking the planes back once they land outside of Russia?

[PhaelixWW]

So what's to stop those airliners from taking the planes back once they land outside of Russia?

...the fact that nobody will let them fly out of Russia?

[Templar 331]

...the fact that nobody will let them fly out of Russia?

I know Russia is a HUGE country, but it's kind of weird to me to think that all air travel in the country will be limited to within the country. With their economy going to shit will anyone be able to afford to fly? It's not cheap over here so I can imagine how bad it will be over there.