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    Kentucky Factory workers threatened with firing if they left before tornado - 8 Dead

    If you ever come across a comment or article that tries to sow distrust in unionization and collective bargaining, please remember the Mayfield Candle factory management's response to a massive tornado headed right for their workers who wanted to leave and get out of it's path.

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    MAYFIELD, Ky. — As a catastrophic tornado approached this city Friday, employees of a candle factory — which would later be destroyed — heard the warning sirens and wanted to leave the building. But at least five workers said supervisors warned employees that they would be fired if they left their shifts early.

    For hours, as word of the coming storm spread, as many as 15 workers beseeched managers to let them take shelter at their own homes, only to have their requests rebuffed, the workers said.

    Fearing for their safety, some left during their shifts regardless of the repercussions.

    At least eight people died in the Mayfield Consumer Products factory, which makes scented candles. The facility was leveled, and all that is left is rubble. Photos and videos of its widespread mangled remains have become symbols of the enormous destructive power of Friday’s tornado system.

    Kentucky Gov. Andy Beshear said Monday that 74 people were confirmed dead in the state.

    McKayla Emery, 21, said in an interview from her hospital bed that workers first asked to leave shortly after tornado sirens sounded outside the factory around 5:30 p.m.



    Employees congregated in bathrooms and inside hallways, but the real tornado wouldn’t arrive for several more hours. After employees decided that the immediate danger had passed, several began asking to go home, the workers said.

    “People had questioned if they could leave or go home,” said Emery, who preferred to stay at work and make extra money. Overtime pay was available, but it wasn’t clear whether those who stayed were offered additional pay.

    Supervisors and team leaders told employees that leaving would probably jeopardize their jobs, the employees said.

    “If you leave, you’re more than likely to be fired,” Emery said she overheard managers tell four workers standing near her who wanted to leave. “I heard that with my own ears.”

    About 15 people asked to go home during the night shift shortly after the first emergency alarm sounded outside the facility, said another employee, Haley Conder, 29.

    There was a three- to four-hour window between the first and second emergency alarms when workers should have been allowed to go home, she said.

    Initially, Conder said, team leaders told her they wouldn’t let workers leave because of safety precautions, so they kept everyone in the hallways and the bathrooms. Once they mistakenly thought the tornado was no longer a danger, they sent everyone back to work, employees said.

    Anyone who wanted to leave should have been allowed to, Conder said.

    Elijah Johnson, 20, was working in the back of the building when several employees wanting to head home walked in to speak with supervisors. He joined in on the request.

    “I asked to leave and they told me I’d be fired,” Johnson said. “Even with the weather like this, you’re still going to fire me?” he asked.

    “Yes,” a manager responded, Johnson told NBC News.

    Johnson said managers went so far as to take a roll call in hopes of finding out who had left work.

    Company officials denied the allegations.

    “It’s absolutely untrue,” said Bob Ferguson, a spokesman for Mayfield Consumer Products. “We’ve had a policy in place since Covid began. Employees can leave any time they want to leave and they can come back the next day.”

    He also denied that managers told employees that leaving their shifts meant risking their jobs. Ferguson said managers and team leaders undergo a series of emergency drills that follow guidelines of the Federal Emergency Management Agency and the Occupational Safety and Health Administration.

    “Those protocols are in place and were followed,” he said.

    A 24-hour hotline is available as of Monday for employees to call about hazard pay, grief counseling and other assistance, he said.

    Autumn Kirks, a team lead at the factory who was working that night, denied Monday afternoon on MSNBC that people’s jobs were threatened if they didn’t go in.

    But another employee, Latavia Halliburton, said she witnessed workers’ being threatened with termination if they left.

    “Some people asked if they could leave,” but managers told them they would be fired if they did, she said.

    The first tornado warning passed without any damage, but several hours later, another warning was issued. Once the second tornado siren sounded sometime after 9 p.m. Friday, Conder and a group of others approached three managers asking to go home.

    “‘You can’t leave. You can’t leave. You have to stay here,’” Conder said the managers told her. “The situation was bad. Everyone was uncomfortable.”

    Mark Saxton, 37, a forklift operator, said that he would have preferred to leave but that he wasn’t given the option.

    “That’s the thing. We should have been able to leave,” Saxton said. “The first warning came, and they just had us go in the hallway. After the warning, they had us go back to work. They never offered us to go home.”

    As the storm moved forward after the second siren, the employees took shelter. The lights in the building started to flicker.

    Moments later, Emery, who was standing near the candle wax and fragrance room, was struck in the head by a piece of concrete.

    “I kid you not, I heard a loud noise and the next thing I know, I was stuck under a cement wall,” she said. “I couldn’t move anything. I couldn’t push anything. I was stuck.”

    Emery, who was trapped for six hours, had several chemical burn marks on her legs, her buttocks and her forehead from the candle wax. She also sustained kidney damage, her urine is black, and she still can’t move her legs because of the swelling and from having been motionless for so long.

    Employees who wanted to go home early said they were mistreated.

    “It hurts, ’cause I feel like we were neglected,” Saxton said.
    To make matters worse, these workers make minimum wage.

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    ▪ The candle factory was hiring, advertising 10-hour and 12-hour shifts that started at $8 an hour — 75 cents more than minimum wage. The afternoon shift began at 5 p.m. “Mandatory overtime will be required frequently, either by extending your shift or working on Friday,” the company told potential job applicants.
    Unionize.
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    I'd also highly recommend boycotting anyone who does business with that company.

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    Yeah this is Bezos in a nutshell. Human life is just a cost factor.

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    "The tree of profit must be refreshed from time to time with the blood workers and peasants..."

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    So it's a "our word against their's" situation

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    Quote Originally Posted by KOUNTERPARTS View Post
    So it's a "our word against their's" situation
    Only if you truly believe a company who uses prison labor is above putting profit over the well-being of their workers. The amount of blind trust people put in capital in this country never ceases to amaze me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by downnola View Post
    Only if you truly believe a company who uses prison labor is above putting profit over the well-being of their workers. The amount of blind trust people put in capital in this country never ceases to amaze me.

    No I don't believe it, but going by the article, that is what the company is going with.


    Employees are saying "you said this" and the response is more-or-less "nuh uh" at this moment. Shitty situation all around.

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    Seeing the devastation that tornado caused is horrifying. And the sheer mass of it, especially at this time of the year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KOUNTERPARTS View Post
    No I don't believe it, but going by the article, that is what the company is going with.


    Employees are saying "you said this" and the response is more-or-less "nuh uh" at this moment. Shitty situation all around.
    I mean the alternative is that a bunch of employees fastidiously chose to stay at work despite the threat of a tornado without adequate safety shelters available despite the company telling them they could leave because they… just really believed in the scented candles cause?

    I’m gonna believe these employees on this one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KOUNTERPARTS View Post
    No I don't believe it, but going by the article, that is what the company is going with.


    Employees are saying "you said this" and the response is more-or-less "nuh uh" at this moment. Shitty situation all around.
    The richest companies on earth have always been known for never lying.

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    Not only am I inclined to believe the employees, I’m also wondering if management was taking bets on how many employees would get killed by tornadoes.

    I am also wondering if the facilities were fully insured and if the owners will be needing a handout.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnBrown1917 View Post
    The richest companies on earth have always been known for never lying.
    wait....
    Mayfield Consumer Products
    is the richest company on earth? or one of them?

    i think you have a few stories confused.
    Buh Byeeeeeeeeeeee !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by downnola View Post
    If you ever come across a comment or article that tries to sow distrust in unionization and collective bargaining, please remember the Mayfield Candle factory management's response to a massive tornado headed right for their workers who wanted to leave and get out of it's path.

    Unionize.
    I don't think rural western Kentucky, with a factory in a town of 10,000, is what to turn to in the national argument regarding unionization.

    Don't get me wrong though. It is nice that people notice rural America for once, even with the backdrop of bad management and tornado destruction. It's surely and a good place to seek unionization representation, even as many of the same people try to destroy their political representation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaleredar View Post
    I mean the alternative is that a bunch of employees fastidiously chose to stay at work despite the threat of a tornado without adequate safety shelters available despite the company telling them they could leave because they… just really believed in the scented candles cause?

    I’m gonna believe these employees on this one.
    It is possible that some would have chosen to stay for the overtime because pay for jobs like that is probably absolute garbage, and they need all the hours they can get...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zan15 View Post
    wait....
    Mayfield Consumer Products
    is the richest company on earth? or one of them?

    i think you have a few stories confused.
    Easy to confuse with 2 very similar stories.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XDurionX View Post
    Yeah this is Bezos in a nutshell. Human life is just a cost factor.
    Tell me you didn't read without telling me you didn't read.
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    Quote Originally Posted by s_bushido View Post
    It is possible that some would have chosen to stay for the overtime because pay for jobs like that is probably absolute garbage, and they need all the hours they can get...
    story says 8 bucks an hour....8.....bucks...

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnBrown1917 View Post
    Easy to confuse with 2 very similar stories.
    not at all. Candle factory looks like it threatened their employees, amazon suggested their employees stay as it was not safe to travel.
    Buh Byeeeeeeeeeeee !!

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    And some of those people have text messages to back up their claims - texts to loved ones saying they aren't being allowed to leave prior to tornado arriving. As damning evidence as it goes above the he-said/she-said argument.

    Of course, unless the factory has a parent company with deep pockets, there is no one to sue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KOUNTERPARTS View Post
    No I don't believe it, but going by the article, that is what the company is going with.


    Employees are saying "you said this" and the response is more-or-less "nuh uh" at this moment. Shitty situation all around.
    Except for the text messages prior to the tornado arriving. Those will help in what I hope will be a 100's of millions of dollars lawsuit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zan15 View Post
    wait....
    Mayfield Consumer Products
    is the richest company on earth? or one of them?

    i think you have a few stories confused.
    considering the discussion section of almost every article Ive seen on this, there are always 2 or 3 people trying to make it sound likes it's the Amazon plant.

    Starting to wonder if it's some memo that went out. "shift the argument to Amazon"
    "Law and Order", lots of places have had that, Russia, North Korea, Saddam's Iraq.
    Laws can be made to enforce order of cruelty and brutality.
    Equality and Justice, that is how you have peace and a society that benefits all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tehdang View Post
    I don't think rural western Kentucky, with a factory in a town of 10,000, is what to turn to in the national argument regarding unionization.

    Don't get me wrong though. It is nice that people notice rural America for once, even with the backdrop of bad management and tornado destruction. It's surely and a good place to seek unionization representation, even as many of the same people try to destroy their political representation.
    A small town factory in rural KY exploiting workers to the point where they won't let them leave prior to a catastrophic tornado killing 8 of them sounds like the perfect example of why unionization is sorely needed in America.

    If not them then who is? They use prison labor and pay dogshit wages while forcing them to work 10-12 hour shifts with mandatory overtime. I mean come on, you couldn't make it up if you tried.
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