Defeat Cinematics

[Kharnath]

I would love for blizzard to add ingame cinematics when you LOSE a boss fight.

Ex: Your raid lost to N'zoth and a cinematic plays showing how N'zoth corrupts Azeroth entirely turning it into void.

These loss cinematics would only apply to bosses whom already have cinematics (typically last boss in raid instance).

[Varodoc]

These people couldn't even come up with an actual cinematic for N'Zoth (you know, one that wasn't a 10 seconds rip-off of LOTR), there's no way they'd be able to come up with a Defeat cinematic too.

[Kyux]

I would support that if it was done in a particular way.

Does it happen every time, or only the first time you wipe? If it's every time it'll be annoying. If it's only the first time you've barely started the boss fight (you may not have gotten to N'Zoth's corruption phase, or even beaten the first adds before getting to the boss proper). Perhaps it's the first time you wipe at 10%? Or first wipe at 80%?

[Dellis0991]

I would love for blizzard to add ingame cinematics when you LOSE a boss fight.

Ex: Your raid lost to N'zoth and a cinematic plays showing how N'zoth corrupts Azeroth entirely turning it into void.

These loss cinematics would only apply to bosses whom already have cinematics (typically last boss in raid instance).

It's a interesting idea but I think most people would skip it like they do most raid cutscenes.

[Val the Moofia Boss]

I would love for blizzard to add ingame cinematics when you LOSE a boss fight.

Ex: Your raid lost to N'zoth and a cinematic plays showing how N'zoth corrupts Azeroth entirely turning it into void.

These loss cinematics would only apply to bosses whom already have cinematics (typically last boss in raid instance).

That would be really cool. It's rather disappointing that Deathwing's enrage is to cause another Cataclysm, but the screen just fades to white and you don't get to see anything.

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Does it happen every time, or only the first time you wipe? If it's every time it'll be annoying.

Just do what FFXIV did for it's boss cutscenes and add a "skip cutscenes you've already seen before" option in the menu.

[AwkwardSquirtle]

Just do what FFXIV did for it's boss cutscenes and add a "skip cutscenes you've already seen before" option in the menu.

Bigwigs has been doing that for me for so long I'd almost forgotten it wasn't a baseline feature.

[McNeil]

That would be a fun way to trick players into thinking that the final boss ends up winning if they were to datamine only that cinematic. It requires more resources just to something that would end up annoying the players though (then again they couldn't resist doing these annoying transitions during the Sylvanas fight).

A cool version of a defeat cinematic would be if the Lich King defeats us and we get raised into undead versions of ourselves and being forced to kill Tirion while he pleads to us.

[Val the Moofia Boss]

(then again they couldn't resist doing these annoying transitions during the Sylvanas fight).

Annoying? They're a chance for me to drink some water and rest for a moment before continuing on with a hectic, mentally exhausting battle.

[hulkgor]

Silly suggestion, really.

That would make sense if said loss\defeat was permanent, or actually became lore.

Having a defeat cinematic for wipes on a boss, that then turn into a winning cinematic when you kill it, is plain absurd, and one of the silliest suggestions i've read. It would be a "what if you lose" scenario that literally has no relevance to the story of the game since it doesn't actually happen in lore, since, you know, we defeat the baddies! and just be actually confusing for those more easily distracted or confused.

"haha you lost, the void absorbed Azeroth, the world is now corrupted and everyone is dead, including your character...................

......... PSYCH! JUST KIDDING! Just release and go again! "

oh, and i can already imagine people purposely causing wipes on pugs because they want to see said cinematic. Genius idea really.

[Val the Moofia Boss]

Silly suggestion, really.

That would make sense if said loss\defeat was permanent, or actually became lore.

Having a defeat cinematic for wipes on a boss, that then turn into a winning cinematic when you kill it, is plain absurd, and one of the silliest suggestions i've read. It would be a "what if you lose" scenario that literally has no relevance to the story of the game since it doesn't actually happen in lore, since, you know, we defeat the baddies! and just be actually confusing for those more easily distracted or confused.

What would be confusing about it? You get a game over cutscene and then restart the fight. It's clear you're supposed to succeed and kill the boss. Bad endings have always been cool "what if" scenarios.

[TheFirstOnes]

Would be a fun what if scenario if you wipe on a boss lol

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Especially Zovaal actually

[Mysterymask]

Oh boy I can't wait to have to push the esc key EVERYTIME I WIPE

[FelPlague]

These people couldn't even come up with an actual cinematic for N'Zoth (you know, one that wasn't a 10 seconds rip-off of LOTR), there's no way they'd be able to come up with a Defeat cinematic too.

they did, did you forget the entire cinematic before it?
The whole point was players were sick and tired of "someone else stealing the kill" so they gave us what we wanted, but added that little cinematic after. also it was longer then 10 seconds so idk why you gotta lie mate.

[Soon-TM]

Oh boy I can't wait to have to push the esc key EVERYTIME I WIPE

Pssst Bigwigs can already do that for you.

[shadowmatrix]

These people couldn't even come up with an actual cinematic for N'Zoth (you know, one that wasn't a 10 seconds rip-off of LOTR), there's no way they'd be able to come up with a Defeat cinematic too.

That was more of a Star Wars moment then LOTR.

[Tiwack]

RPG elements in WoW?! Crazy talk! /s

Honestly a great idea, unless you can accept that they'll be reusing the same cutscene for "you lose" on every boss, past, present and future, as I highly doubt they'll pour ressources into it.

[Mysterymask]

Pssst Bigwigs can already do that for you.

That's nice for a cutscene that in an ideal situation I see once

Not for one I have to see Everytime I fuck up

[Dellis0991]

I just thought about how it would look to lose to a old god and I must say I hope my character's good and dead because I don't want to know what the hentai god is going to do to my character's corpse. *shivers*

[Lochton]

I would love for blizzard to add ingame cinematics when you LOSE a boss fight.

Ex: Your raid lost to N'zoth and a cinematic plays showing how N'zoth corrupts Azeroth entirely turning it into void.

These loss cinematics would only apply to bosses whom already have cinematics (typically last boss in raid instance).

The idea is good, but maybe not for a raid, maybe more for a scenario.

[Alkizon]

That sounds good. I believe that if it were like this, then it'd only be a "plus", but following their theory about "only 5% of subscribers will see this" and modifying it to "time spent on fact that subscribers will somehow (if not immediately , then they'll take as a norm) skip in the end", all this will result in "it's not worth it".

But as a role player, I'd no doubt write it down as a plus. Small few-seconds cutscenes for dungeon bosses and longer cutscenes for raid bosses (perhaps even with boss mocking vanquished or manipulating their corpses ; for raid bosses - with following consequences for rest of the world; of course with possibility of skipping)... but here we go again to thirst for "movement" in design of modern dungeons, which (as you already know) disgusts me incredibly.