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    Quote Originally Posted by UnifiedDivide View Post
    it seems hilarious.
    Yeah, this goes back to what I was saying before. I don't think the judge, who was clearly being personally attacked in public, should lose any rights just because Jones is currently in her courtroom. I mean, suing him right now might be considered too aggressive, but Jones is giving her every chance. Perhaps when the case has left her courtroom for good.

    Or, that could just be contempt of court.

    Seriously, you can't just broadcast to public that someone is a child trafficker and advocate violence against them and expect to get away with it. It shouldn't be grounds for appeal, either, because otherwise every guilty defendant would do it literally every time.

    "We, the jury, find you guilty of murdering fifty-seven baby seals in a Taco Bell."
    "Ah, but remember that time I called the judge a fucking cunt on Twitter? Clearly that made her biased against me."
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    "I DEMAND AN APPEAL! In front of a judge I pre-emptively call a fucking cunt!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    You're making it sound like, if someone ever gets caught in a court case they can't possibly win, they should attack the judge, then claim the judge is biased as grounds for appeal. Jones called the judge a child trafficker on his show. You don't get to do that and assume there's no consequences.
    No, I'm saying that if the judge wants to pursue in a defamation suit against Jones, she should recuse herself. If she doesn't want to pursue that case... than there isn;t an issue.

    I'm not sure exactly how it works in America...but here in canada:

    https://www.judicialrecusal.com/recu...cation-canada/

    1.“Judges should disqualify themselves in any case in which they believe they will be unable to judge impartially;” 2. “Judges should disqualify themselves in any case in which they believe that a reasonable, fair minded and informed person would have a reasoned suspicion of conflict between a judge’s personal interest (or that of a judge’s immediate family or close friends or associates) and a judge’s duty;”
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evil Midnight Bomber View Post
    No, I'm saying that if the judge wants to pursue in a defamation suit against Jones, she should recuse herself.
    Why wouldn't Jones just call the next judge a child trafficker, then? Maybe I'm giving the courtroom too much credit, but I don't see how the defendant should get to change the rules just because they're losing. Don't like the judge? Publicly defame them. Maybe the next judge will be better. Maybe you'll get grounds for an appeal when they sue you.

    Even if that is a thing the US justice system allows, I'm saying it shouldn't be. Jones is in a position where there's nothing left to lose, barring criminal charges I suppose. I don't like the idea of rewarding his behavior with even a small chance of a positive outcome because he called the judge a human trafficker who should be set on fire.

    Perhaps the judge is just waiting for Jones to leave her courtroom before going after the man who she knows isn't broke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    Why wouldn't Jones just call the next judge a child trafficker, then? Maybe I'm giving the courtroom too much credit, but I don't see how the defendant should get to change the rules just because they're losing. Don't like the judge? Publicly defame them. Maybe the next judge will be better. Maybe you'll get grounds for an appeal when they sue you.

    Even if that is a thing the US justice system allows, I'm saying it shouldn't be. Jones is in a position where there's nothing left to lose, barring criminal charges I suppose. I don't like the idea of rewarding his behavior with even a small chance of a positive outcome because he called the judge a human trafficker who should be set on fire.

    Perhaps the judge is just waiting for Jones to leave her courtroom before going after the man who she knows isn't broke.
    She can harsh him, but completely within the legal structures.
    I'm petty, if I was the judge I'd rather nail his tits to the wall for what he did AND what he said about me in one fell swoop that is not out of line with legal guidelines but at the high end, but still within the guidelines.
    Plus this shows how unbiased she can be, which is capital she can use in future cases.
    She's probably a better person than I am.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    Why wouldn't Jones just call the next judge a child trafficker, then? Maybe I'm giving the courtroom too much credit, but I don't see how the defendant should get to change the rules just because they're losing. Don't like the judge? Publicly defame them. Maybe the next judge will be better. Maybe you'll get grounds for an appeal when they sue you.

    Even if that is a thing the US justice system allows, I'm saying it shouldn't be. Jones is in a position where there's nothing left to lose, barring criminal charges I suppose. I don't like the idea of rewarding his behavior with even a small chance of a positive outcome because he called the judge a human trafficker who should be set on fire.

    Perhaps the judge is just waiting for Jones to leave her courtroom before going after the man who she knows isn't broke.
    It's not "he called me bad names, I can no longer be impartial"

    It's "I'm filing my own lawsuit against this piece of shit, I can no longer be impartial"
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    This is really not the time for glee. This is the time for gleetwopointo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evil Midnight Bomber View Post
    "I'm filing my own lawsuit against this piece of shit, I can no longer be impartial"
    And again, why not do this every time? He's already claimed he has no money. Why wouldn't everyone facing a trial or judgement like this just roll the dice, call the judge a child trafficker, and hope for the best? Seriously there needs to be a downside here to defaming the judge in your own case, because right now it's "either Jones gets away with defaming the judge, or he gets a different judge".

    I dunno, maybe she'll file suit later, when it's safe to do so. We'll find out. But so far, at least, he wasn't even held in contempt.

    Let's try it a different way: Alex Jones stands up and punches the judge in the face. Obviously, he's immediately tackled and arrested. Good. What happens to the judgement trial? Does he get a new judge, appeal, or mistrial because he punched the judge? Jones is looking at losing $150 million, or everything. Why not roll those dice and take even a slim shot at keeping all that money?

    I'll be happy when I see Jones face consequences for this, too. I might just have to wait.

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    In a nutshell.
    Alex Jones's Phone is everything the Right wished Hunter's Laptop woulda been.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Evil Midnight Bomber View Post
    It's not "he called me bad names, I can no longer be impartial"

    It's "I'm filing my own lawsuit against this piece of shit, I can no longer be impartial"
    Not sure why she'd even consider it, when she has contempt options right there. She could have had Jones tossed into a cell for weeks. He's likely to end up penniless after this decision, anyway, and defamation lawsuits are entirely about compensation.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    And again, why not do this every time? He's already claimed he has no money. Why wouldn't everyone facing a trial or judgement like this just roll the dice, call the judge a child trafficker, and hope for the best? Seriously there needs to be a downside here to defaming the judge in your own case, because right now it's "either Jones gets away with defaming the judge, or he gets a different judge".
    I mean if he keeeps doing it...he will likely be facing contempt of court charges...and that can lead to fines and possibly just a default judgement against him for maximum damages.

    Let's try it a different way: Alex Jones stands up and punches the judge in the face. Obviously, he's immediately tackled and arrested. Good. What happens to the judgement trial? Does he get a new judge, appeal, or mistrial because he punched the judge? Jones is looking at losing $150 million, or everything. Why not roll those dice and take even a slim shot at keeping all that money?
    Tackled, arrested, and charged with assault...plus probably a number of other crimes. Not really a great way to get a judge to recuse herself.

    Let me flip it on you with a different example:

    Do you think SCJ Clarence Thomas should recuse himself from any hearing involving the January 6th attack on the capitol because of his wife's potential involvement? Would you expect him to be fair and impartial in those proceedings? There's a reason why recusal exists.
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    I think when this is all said and done, the victims are going to end up financially with nothing, because this slick piece of shit is going to get out of any real substantive financial responsibility, by declaring bankruptcy.

    BUT with a conviction here, hopefully this morons won't be able to help himself but do the same evil stupid shit, and they can go at him again after a victory here, and anyone else that sponsors him like Joe Rogan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evil Midnight Bomber View Post
    I mean if he keeeps doing it...he will likely be facing contempt of court charges...and that can lead to fines and possibly just a default judgement against him for maximum damages.
    Yeah, I guess I can settle for that.

    Quote Originally Posted by Doctor Amadeus View Post
    I think when this is all said and done, the victims are going to end up financially with nothing, because this slick piece of shit is going to get out of any real substantive financial responsibility, by declaring bankruptcy.
    See, here's the thing: he's already tried bankruptcy once and failed. He's also trying it again and having little to no luck. Even before he handed his phone directly to the plaintiffs and said "please see my financial situation" it's also been exposed that the people he "owes money to firster" are himself and his parents. Basically, his attempt to "slick" out of paying people has already been publicly exposed as a sham.

    Bankruptcy isn't about saving your money, or at least, that's not something you can depend on. You basically hand everything over to an in theory impartial official and they decide who gets paid what. I'm moderately certain that judgements in court take priority over, say, and IOU from yourself.

    Now, I'm not saying you're wrong, but I am saying I hope you're wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doctor Amadeus View Post
    Alex Jones lawyer “accidentally” sent the wrong content to the prosecution or did he?

    Obviously one of the lizards people.
    If there's child porn on it, then I wouldn't be surprised if it was on purpose to get around privilege.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    They can! Joe just has to give up that sweet Spotify money and go independent again. When you sign on with a big business daddy for those sweet big business daddy bux, you gotta play by big business daddy's rules.
    If I had been drinking something while reading this, I probably would've spat it out all over my keyboard. Thank you, lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doctor Amadeus View Post
    I think when this is all said and done, the victims are going to end up financially with nothing, because this slick piece of shit is going to get out of any real substantive financial responsibility, by declaring bankruptcy.

    BUT with a conviction here, hopefully this morons won't be able to help himself but do the same evil stupid shit, and they can go at him again after a victory here, and anyone else that sponsors him like Joe Rogan.
    From the sound of it I don’t think the judge is going to be too keen on believing him or be “understanding” of his supposedly bad financial situation.

    The one thing you don’t want to do is piss off the judge, and he’s done that numerous times already. I have no reason to think she has any illusions about what’s going on, and, as a judge, hopefully knows exactly how to get around any of his financial bullshit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doctor Amadeus View Post
    I think when this is all said and done, the victims are going to end up financially with nothing, because this slick piece of shit is going to get out of any real substantive financial responsibility, by declaring bankruptcy.

    BUT with a conviction here, hopefully this morons won't be able to help himself but do the same evil stupid shit, and they can go at him again after a victory here, and anyone else that sponsors him like Joe Rogan.
    To get around that the judge can make sure that any money Jones makes in the future goes towards the plaintiffs. They can take a percentage of future earnings until the thing is paid.
    "The customer is always right" is a nice way of saying "I will put up with your bullshit as long as you pay me"

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    What is the actual legal bar for perjury, and why does he never seem to reach it?

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    Alex Jones can go get fucked. This could not be happening to a worse piece of human garbage.

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    Its really strange because I grew up in Austin Texas and I remember this Alex guy being just some dude on cable access that flipped out at the government all the time. Then he became the leader of some vast empire of derps... to only throw it all away in just about the derpy-est way possible. What a moron.

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