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    The effects of the mass layoffs and semi-forced resignations might not show up immediately. But they're running in just keep the lights on mode for sure. When it will really show up is when they now have a major problem (being hacked, major infrastructure going down, etc.) and it takes them a lot longer than it should to recover. That might be next week or in 6 months, but there's a good chance it will happen. Also important to note that Twitter Engineers that have left have described it as a "house of cards". All it will take is them falling behind on security updates being short-staffed now and I wouldn't be surprised to see them get hit with a major intrusion.

    But even before that advertisers aren't going to want to go near Twitter for quite a while. Brand risk is more important than anything to most big companies and there are plenty of safer places for that right now. And when the inevitable long outage now comes that might be the nail in the coffin.

    Updating also because it's being reported that 75% of the *remaining* employees opted to take severance after yesterday's ultimatum. So a company with 7,500 employees 2 weeks ago is now 900. GL with that. I mean they can send everyone home and the site will still run...just not for very long.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowferal View Post
    Posted a little over a month ago. It didn't age well at all.
    Why do you say that? I'm optimistic in regards to Twitter and Musk and I've only heard weak arguments from the anti-Musk circle jerk.

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    Here is me thinking he would just lose money after the realisation he vastly over payed for Twitter and end up dumping it in 12-24 months for a fraction of what he paid...

    But man didn't see him crashing and burning it so quickly! The IP is going to be worth fuck all if this carries on!
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    Wealth inequality is here to stay, sometimes it's just how lifes cookie crumbles and all of society is better off for it.
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    But from what I can see it is quite probable Æthelstan was the first Brexiteer, likely the Farage of his age seeing off the European continentals in the very first successful Brexit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PC2 View Post
    Why do you say that? I'm optimistic in regards to Twitter and Musk and I've only heard weak arguments from the anti-Musk circle jerk.
    It's actually fascinating how different people are. You look at all the news about Twitter and are optimistic. And here I sit and can't see how you can be optimistic. Like, at all, I can't understand it.

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    He considers billionaires to be like deities, all serving his god Consumerism.
    Quote Originally Posted by dribbles View Post
    Wealth inequality is here to stay, sometimes it's just how lifes cookie crumbles and all of society is better off for it.
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    But from what I can see it is quite probable Æthelstan was the first Brexiteer, likely the Farage of his age seeing off the European continentals in the very first successful Brexit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PC2 View Post
    Why do you say that? I'm optimistic in regards to Twitter and Musk and I've only heard weak arguments from the anti-Musk circle jerk.
    ... because you're the king of making reasonable points, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PC2 View Post
    Why do you say that? I'm optimistic in regards to Twitter and Musk and I've only heard weak arguments from the anti-Musk circle jerk.
    This is the funniest stuff i've read all day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twdft View Post
    It's actually fascinating how different people are. You look at all the news about Twitter and are optimistic. And here I sit and can't see how you can be optimistic. Like, at all, I can't understand it.
    Try this. Assume he has no fucking idea what he's talking about and has the cognitive abilities of a rotting corpse. It all starts making sense. This guy's so thick I feel like the Skyrim NPCs that have your arrow stuck in their heads saying 'must have been my imagination' might actually be a realistic representation of at least some people.

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    Wonder how many Elon defenders will blame his stupidity on autism.

    Honestly Twitter has never been this hilariously bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doctor Amadeus View Post
    Wonder how many Elon defenders will blame his stupidity on autism.

    Honestly Twitter has never been this hilariously bad.
    It would be pretty awful/hilarious if they tried that. Regardless of whatever autism may affect behavior and social interaction choices, Musk was previously a successful leader in several business areas, including bringing the United States (and frankly the world) into much cheaper space flight access.

    So to casually toss all that aside and blame his abhorrent behavior on something he's had his entire life would be both intellectual dishonest and at some level morally bankrupt. Defending Musk at this point, in any of his personal choices, and even most of his business decisions, is ridiculous.

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    https://www.cnbc.com/2022/11/16/elon...c-insults.html

    Elon Musk said in court Wednesday that he does not want to be the CEO of any company.

    He recently acquired social media giant Twitter and appointed himself as the CEO, adding to his responsibilities as the CEO and “technoking” of electric vehicle maker Tesla, and CEO and CTO of the U.S. defense contractor SpaceX.
    Weird way of going about not wanting to be CEO, buying a company and becoming the CEO of it.

    And complains about the SEC because of course -

    “In general, I think the mission of the SEC is good but the question is whether that mission is being executed well,” he replied.

    “In some cases I think it is not. The SEC fails to investigate things that they should and places far too much attention on things that are not relevant. The recent FTX thing I think is an example of that. Why was there no attention given to FTX? Investors lost billions. Yet the SEC continues to hound me despite shareholders being greatly rewarded. This makes no sense.”
    Except like...

    In fact, the SEC and several other regulators have reportedly launched investigations into collapsed crypto firm FTX, but it’s not clear if those investigations started prior to the firm’s sudden bankruptcy last week.
    Elon continues to have a very bad month.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cubby View Post
    It would be pretty awful/hilarious if they tried that. Regardless of whatever autism may affect behavior and social interaction choices, Musk was previously a successful leader in several business areas, including bringing the United States (and frankly the world) into much cheaper space flight access.

    So to casually toss all that aside and blame his abhorrent behavior on something he's had his entire life would be both intellectual dishonest and at some level morally bankrupt. Defending Musk at this point, in any of his personal choices, and even most of his business decisions, is ridiculous.
    Yeah true, I should have made it clear what is awful are the innocent people and individuals being harmed and those fired. Nothing funny about that to me.


    However after reading some of the tweets about how this was Elon's plan all along. Like he just decided to flush $54 billion down the toilet for free speech. So, that is why I said I imagine when or if some get past that his self identifying as Autistic according to a tweet by Marilee Matlin would be blamed next. Between him and Kanye I feel bad for people getting lumped in with these jackasses.

    As for Elon again, I will admit I pretty duped by the fact at one point I thought this guy might be the really decent human being.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doctor Amadeus View Post
    Wonder how many Elon defenders will blame his stupidity on autism.

    Honestly Twitter has never been this hilariously bad.
    The same people who'd belittle someone for being autistic are the same people currently up Musk's ass and claiming his burning down of Twitter is some 5D chess move. I don't think we're gonna see anyone make those moves unless Musk himself comes out and says 'Nuuu don' bully me I'm neurodivergent :,<' and his fart smellers can make this a fake narrative about Abelism

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    Also as someone who's got ASD themselves: I can blame Musks' social ineptitude partly on the brain-chemicals being goofy, 'cuz that's just how it be. Him being a shitty asshole and an absolutely spoiled dipshit? Can blame that all on him and his upbringing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xyonai View Post
    The same people who'd belittle someone for being autistic are the same people currently up Musk's ass and claiming his burning down of Twitter is some 5D chess move. I don't think we're gonna see anyone make those moves unless Musk himself comes out and says 'Nuuu don' bully me I'm neurodivergent :,<' and his fart smellers can make this a fake narrative about Abelism

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    Also as someone who's got ASD themselves: I can blame Musks' social ineptitude partly on the brain-chemicals being goofy, 'cuz that's just how it be. Him being a shitty asshole and an absolutely spoiled dipshit? Can blame that all on him and his upbringing.
    Not just his upbringing - his current wealth and success. Human beings need negative feedback. Any dynamic system needs it in order to avoid eventually going out of control. When you're the world's richest man, who popularized electric cars and oversaw a revolution in space access, it seems like it would be very easy to cut yourself off from negative feedback (such as he's doing at Twitter, firing anyone who directly criticizes him). That becomes a variant of 'dictator disease', where no one dares contradict you, or give you bad news. In turn that leads to a disconnect from reality - functional insanity, even if the individual has no other mental or physical disease, because their inability to interact with the world-as-it-is has been badly broken.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PC2 View Post
    Why do you say that? I'm optimistic in regards to Twitter and Musk and I've only heard weak arguments from the anti-Musk circle jerk.
    What makes you feel optimisitic about a compnay no one wants to work for?
    You will all notice that certain posters are all very keen to talk about Neely's actions before the Chokehold...but they dodge every question about Penny's actions during the chokehold.... particularly that he held the chokehold after Neely lost consciousness...

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    Quote Originally Posted by postman1782 View Post
    I saw on Tiktok, that less than 300 are left. But take that with a grain of salt.
    It is possible that the engineering workforce is now down to around 300. One guy on LinkedIn claimed that 80% of the people in his department took the 3-month severance. The majority of the engineers that stayed are on visas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evil Midnight Bomber View Post
    What makes you feel optimisitic about a compnay no one wants to work for?
    Its infinite potential, probably. Everything has infinite potential, so everything is exciting.

    Meanwhile, Twitter's offices are closed until Monday and they kicked people out because apparently Elon is worried about saboteurs. Which is like, objectively absolutely fucking hilarious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    https://www.cnbc.com/2022/11/16/elon...c-insults.html
    Elon Musk said in court Wednesday that he does not want to be the CEO of any company.

    He recently acquired social media giant Twitter and appointed himself as the CEO, adding to his responsibilities as the CEO and “technoking” of electric vehicle maker Tesla, and CEO and CTO of the U.S. defense contractor SpaceX.
    Weird way of going about not wanting to be CEO, buying a company and becoming the CEO of it.
    I thought that was weird as well. His mental decline is speeding up.

    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    And complains about the SEC because of course -
    “In general, I think the mission of the SEC is good but the question is whether that mission is being executed well,” he replied.

    “In some cases I think it is not. The SEC fails to investigate things that they should and places far too much attention on things that are not relevant. The recent FTX thing I think is an example of that. Why was there no attention given to FTX? Investors lost billions. Yet the SEC continues to hound me despite shareholders being greatly rewarded. This makes no sense.”
    Except like...
    In fact, the SEC and several other regulators have reportedly launched investigations into collapsed crypto firm FTX, but it’s not clear if those investigations started prior to the firm’s sudden bankruptcy last week.
    Elon continues to have a very bad month.
    Those complaints about FTX are wholly justified and accurate. That entire situation is a shitshow failure of regulatory law. Regardless of all Musk gets wrong, he was right to call out that discrepancy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doctor Amadeus View Post
    Yeah true, I should have made it clear what is awful are the innocent people and individuals being harmed and those fired. Nothing funny about that to me.


    However after reading some of the tweets about how this was Elon's plan all along. Like he just decided to flush $54 billion down the toilet for free speech. So, that is why I said I imagine when or if some get past that his self identifying as Autistic according to a tweet by Marilee Matlin would be blamed next. Between him and Kanye I feel bad for people getting lumped in with these jackasses.

    As for Elon again, I will admit I pretty duped by the fact at one point I thought this guy might be the really decent human being.
    Agreed.

    And same here, from awhile back. It all really started coming out with the Philippine submarine thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ringpriest View Post
    Not just his upbringing - his current wealth and success. Human beings need negative feedback. Any dynamic system needs it in order to avoid eventually going out of control. When you're the world's richest man, who popularized electric cars and oversaw a revolution in space access, it seems like it would be very easy to cut yourself off from negative feedback (such as he's doing at Twitter, firing anyone who directly criticizes him). That becomes a variant of 'dictator disease', where no one dares contradict you, or give you bad news. In turn that leads to a disconnect from reality - functional insanity, even if the individual has no other mental or physical disease, because their inability to interact with the world-as-it-is has been badly broken.
    Agreed. And a really solid explanation of his last-2-year-or-so decline.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ringpriest View Post
    Not just his upbringing - his current wealth and success. Human beings need negative feedback. Any dynamic system needs it in order to avoid eventually going out of control. When you're the world's richest man, who popularized electric cars and oversaw a revolution in space access, it seems like it would be very easy to cut yourself off from negative feedback (such as he's doing at Twitter, firing anyone who directly criticizes him). That becomes a variant of 'dictator disease', where no one dares contradict you, or give you bad news. In turn that leads to a disconnect from reality - functional insanity, even if the individual has no other mental or physical disease, because their inability to interact with the world-as-it-is has been badly broken.
    Agreed. And a really solid explanation of his last-2-year-or-so decline.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Its infinite potential, probably. Everything has infinite potential, so everything is exciting.

    Meanwhile, Twitter's offices are closed until Monday and they kicked people out because apparently Elon is worried about saboteurs. Which is like, objectively absolutely fucking hilarious.
    Ifninite opportunities for both employment and sabotage.
    You will all notice that certain posters are all very keen to talk about Neely's actions before the Chokehold...but they dodge every question about Penny's actions during the chokehold.... particularly that he held the chokehold after Neely lost consciousness...

  20. #1980
    Quote Originally Posted by cubby View Post
    I thought that was weird as well. His mental decline is speeding up.
    I didn't think that was weird Musk doesn't really run his companies, he is a venture capitalist. He is good at picking winners and usually has a eye for talent but for all his companies he just has the title. It's impossible for one person to run that many companies in any way shape or form.

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