Again, we can't ascertain the popularity of any race if we aren't counting the AR population, because the AR population numbers potentially affect the base race population numbers.
Like I said, I know the actual race numbers shatter your silly narrative which is why you want to apply conditions instead of simply looking at the numbers at hand. Not surprising since it's a typical tactic you use.
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Yes. Yes, it is. Because we're not talking population numbers.
We're talking popularity. You know, the proportion of players within the playerbase? Percentages? You know percentages, right? Or do you have selective memory and you only know percentages when it suits your arguments?
It doesn't matter if five, fifty, five hundred, five thousand or fifty million players play gnomes and goblins, when a number of player over twenty times bigger than that play the other races, and proportion-wise the gnomes and goblins are below quite the 50% mark.
We were talking about Goblins (and Gnomes) being the least played races in WoW. Since I’ve shown that not to be the case, you’ve shifted the goalposts to a new argument entirely.
Per usual.
The point is this; Goblins rank mid tier in terms of playable races, and Undermine and Tinker are Goblin-centric concepts. An Undermine expansion would increase their numbers, but that would be irrelevant, because the goal of the expansion wouldn’t be to increase the numbers of Goblin players, it would be to provide interesting WC content, which such an expansion would obviously provide.
Current race numbers are also irrelevant for a potential technology-based class, because a new class would obviously cause more players to roll Goblins, Gnomes, and Vulpera.
And you're wrong. As per usual. And dishonestly misrepresenting the argument. Again, as per usual. Let see my original argument:
I said they are one of the least played races. Which they are, and your own link evidences it as they sit in the bottom 50% of the list. Gnomes are even just three ranks above the last spot, being #19 from 23 races. And, if you discount allied races, gnomes are literally bottom tier while gnomes sit on the bottom 30% list.
So, no. Not only I'm not "shifting the argument", but your own link backs me up, here.
And still unpopular.The point is this; Goblins rank mid tier in terms of playable races,
No, it wouldn't. WoD did not increase the number of draenei and orc characters being played.An Undermine expansion would increase their numbers,
So now that you've been proven wrong, you're trying to pretend that "increasing goblin/gnome populations" is no longer a goal?because the goal of the expansion wouldn’t be to increase the numbers of Goblin players,
Any expansion idea can easily provide "interesting WC content". That's a non-argument.it would be to provide interesting WC content, which such an expansion would obviously provide.
No. No, it wouldn't. Especially vulpera. Vulpera are no more "tech class material" than taurens and night elves are. The sole reason you push vulpera as tinkers is because they're a small race.Current race numbers are also irrelevant for a potential technology-based class, because a new class would obviously cause more players to roll Goblins, Gnomes, and Vulpera.
I mean, if we are counting in the AR Population I think its important here to consider that AR races actually start with a disadvantage because you need a high level characters which fulfill specific conditions before you can do a quest chain that unlocks the use of Allied Races, which right before Shadowlands had been even more strict by requiring exalted with a specific reputation, so other than with base races people have to do out of their way to be able to play one. Which makes it even more impressive that Void Elves or Zandalari for example have managed to gain quite a significant playerbase.
I've always liked the titan's aesthetic ever since I first ran though Uldaman. they keep bringing titan facilities back which I like but we've never really had much for zones much less expansions. which, given the course this franchise has taken I wish we cut out a few expansions for a purely titans themed expansion.