SCOTUS removes Roe V Wade

[DarkTZeratul]

"Why is it that the women with the least likelihood of getting pregnant are the ones most worried about having abortions? Nobody wants to impregnate you if you look like a thumb."

Sounds like the inverse of George Carlin: "Why is it that most of the women who are against abortions are women you wouldn't want to fuck in the first place?"

[Mayhem]

https://www.newsweek.com/louisiana-w...-fetus-1725821

So she was basically tortured and probably has to pay her tormentors thousands of dollars.

Land of the free.

[Edge-]

https://www.newsweek.com/louisiana-w...-fetus-1725821

So she was basically tortured and probably has to pay her tormentors thousands of dollars.

Land of the free.

You're free to suffer, at least.

Republicans simply hate women. They don't view them as full human beings deserving of equal rights. Hence why they are fine letting them suffer needlessly. Because they can easily reframe their suffering as "noble" and feel better about it, because who gives a fuck what the woman thinks or feels, amirite bois?

[Belize]

You're free to suffer, at least.

Actually, suffering costs extra. So does dying btw

[Rasulis]

Kansas will be voting on the State's constitutional amendment to declare abortion illegal on 08/02. We'll see how that goes. The polls show it will be close.

Poll shows Kansans closely divided on constitutional amendment on abortion

Regardless of the outcome, the vote in Kansas will tell us something important about how the public is reacting to the U.S. Supreme Court’s decision to overturn Americans’ constitutional right to abortion. We’ll get our first chance to see if the ruling will actually spur voters into action. The turnout could be a bellwether of the November election. Kansas is a very conservative state. Logically this should not be a close vote. Trump won Kansas 56 to 41 in 2020. A close vote could spell trouble for the GOP in November.

[bladeXcrasher]

Kansas will be voting on the State's constitutional amendment to declare abortion illegal on 08/02. We'll see how that goes. The polls show it will be close.

Poll shows Kansans closely divided on constitutional amendment on abortion

Regardless of the outcome, the vote in Kansas will tell us something important about how the public is reacting to the U.S. Supreme Court’s decision to overturn Americans’ constitutional right to abortion. We’ll get our first chance to see if the ruling will actually spur voters into action. The turnout could be a bellwether of the November election. Kansas is a very conservative state. Logically this should not be a close vote. Trump won Kansas 56 to 41 in 2020. A close vote could spell trouble for the GOP in November.

Justin King talked about this around 2 months ago in a video entitled "SCotUS, dirty little secrets, and hypocrisy". Basically talking about rural America women and abortions and how they put up a front for their other conservative neighbors with regards to abortion using a story from his younger years about a woman who told a story about traveling to Pensacola to go to the beach to vacation with a friend when the most beautiful beach was on the way to Pensacola, not in Pensacola. In actuality, she was traveling to Pensacola because she was getting an abortion and didn't want everyone else to know because of small town stigma.

I really hope this whole Roe vs Wade debacle is the thing that keeps conservative women (and some conservative men) home on election day.

[Edge-]

https://www.chron.com/news/nation-wo...-17329245.php?

Reminder: Conservatives will take everything if they can.

The latest target? PrEP.

"Wait, isn't that the drug that is supposed to prevent HIV infections?"

Yes.

"What's the problem?"

They think gay people have HIV and that the ACA covering the drug means that religious organizations are supporting "lifestyle choices".

"But...you can get HIV from heterosexual sex."

Yep, they oppose that too. They think it promotes promiscuity.

"But...you can get HIV from a number of non-sexual ways, including accidentally."

Yep, they'd just like you to get HIV/AIDS and die, then.

Republicans want you dead, period.

[Miffinat0r]

It's also pretty much confirmed that the leaker was a conservative clerk, which means nothing will come of this because only leftists get punished for crimes in the US.

[Xyonai]

It's also pretty much confirmed that the leaker was a conservative clerk, which means nothing will come of this because only leftists get punished for crimes in the US.

To add to this, allegedly Roberts was doing what he could to keep the other Conservative justices from going through with their Dobbs votes and the leak hampered that.

As explained in the article, some conservatives were worried Roberts would be successful in saying - at least - Kavanaugh; so the idea that the leak was a deliberate plan to put pressure on Conservative justices to stick with their decisions seems more likely.

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Though, with the above in mind and the fact that Roberts still voted to overturn, it seems like he was less trying to save Abortion rights and more didn't want to let the radical elements get too carried away, push too hard too fast, and galvanize opposition to the decision like what we're seeing now.

[Milchshake]

My money was on Ginni Thomas leaking it for the lulz.

Reporter Joan Biskupic, who has an excellent source on the SCOTUS, makes the case that Alito leaked the draft.

• John Roberts was furiously lobbying his buddy Brett Kavanaugh to go for the “minimalist” death by a thousand distinctions route in regard to killing Roe v. Wade. Like with ACA, voting rights.
• Then on Tuesday, April 26, the Wall Street Journal’s editorial board, which obviously also has excellent SCOTUS sources, published an editorial warning that Roberts was pressuring an unnamed justice to change his vote in the Dobbs case in order to fake-save Roe.
• And now we learn via Biskupic’s reporting of a truly remarkable coincidence, which is that the Dobbs draft was leaked to Politico immediately after the WSJ editorial was published. How do we know this? She reports that “by the end of that April week” the justices discovered that Politico had obtained the draft.

I realize there’s a lot of speculation in this post, but speculate on this: What exactly happened with John Roberts’s furious Stasi-like investigation into exactly who leaked the draft opinion? It seems like the whole thing just got dropped for some reason.

[Miffinat0r]

To add to this, allegedly Roberts was doing what he could to keep the other Conservative justices from going through with their Dobbs votes and the leak hampered that.

As explained in the article, some conservatives were worried Roberts would be successful in saying - at least - Kavanaugh; so the idea that the leak was a deliberate plan to put pressure on Conservative justices to stick with their decisions seems more likely.

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Though, with the above in mind and the fact that Roberts still voted to overturn, it seems like he was less trying to save Abortion rights and more didn't want to let the radical elements get too carried away, push too hard too fast, and galvanize opposition to the decision like what we're seeing now.

Like I said it's pretty much accepted now that a Conservative Clerk leaked that in response to Roberts trying to whip people into not fully overturning Roe. He wanted portions of it scrapped, but not thrown out entirely. Which is what happened when a conservative clerk leaked the decision so that the opinions would get locked in.

[Edge-]

My money was on Ginni Thomas leaking it for the lulz.

Reporter Joan Biskupic, who has an excellent source on the SCOTUS, makes the case that Alito leaked the draft.

Man I really hope it ends up that Alito actually leaked the draft in order to pressure other justices. Sure it won't result in his removal from the bench, but it'll continue to gut any credibility the Roberts court has and ensure that his court goes down as one of the worst, most compromised courts in US history. And he'll deserve it, fuck Roberts. I hope he still wakes up in a cold sweat, hearing the flush of the toilet from the lawyer making oral arguments in front of the SCOTUS over the phone while taking a shit.

[Milchshake]

Man I really hope it ends up that Alito actually leaked the draft in order to pressure other justices. Sure it won't result in his removal from the bench, but it'll continue to gut any credibility the Roberts court has and ensure that his court goes down as one of the worst, most compromised courts in US history. And he'll deserve it, fuck Roberts. I hope he still wakes up in a cold sweat, hearing the flush of the toilet from the lawyer making oral arguments in front of the SCOTUS over the phone while taking a shit.

Unlikely, Robert's kids go to the same schools and sports stuff that most DC Pundits' kids go to.
They will constantly assure the viewing public that Roberts is very reasonable and smarts. Plus he's a real mensch for picking up the team after soccer practice.

Same people that promised for 40 years that "the GOP would never really gut Roe."


The Jeffery Toobins of the world are clearly wearing no robes.

[Edge-]

So when is same sex marriages going to be outlawed?

Any bets?

As soon as a "reasonable" challenge can make it to the SCOTUS, probably.

[Poopymonster]

So when is same sex marriages going to be outlawed?

Any bets?

Summer 2023 it'll be decided upon. Depending on how the rest of the year/elections fall out will decide how it goes.

[Captain N]

As soon as a "reasonable" challenge can make it to the SCOTUS, probably.

Homosexual marriage has been pushed on children in classrooms since it was legalized. We need to think of the children, and keep them away from such horrible things. Your Honors -- we need to abolish laws that permit our children to be forced to deal with this awful lifestyle choice.

--Conservative Lawyer...Probably--

[Edge-]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b2130937.html

And another story of a woman who had to cross state lines for life-saving medical care. Eerily similar to the ad that was recently cut about the couple expecting being told their child wouldn't survive more than a few painful hours but that there was simply no medical care that the doctor could provide thanks to Gregg Abbott.

No chance of the baby surviving. Health of the mother at risk. Still forced to travel for medical care, and then have the ashes shipped back home.

Republicans just want to torture families that experience health complications during pregnancy.

[Rasulis]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b2130937.html

And another story of a woman who had to cross state lines for life-saving medical care. Eerily similar to the ad that was recently cut about the couple expecting being told their child wouldn't survive more than a few painful hours but that there was simply no medical care that the doctor could provide thanks to Gregg Abbott.

No chance of the baby surviving. Health of the mother at risk. Still forced to travel for medical care, and then have the ashes shipped back home.

Republicans just want to torture families that experience health complications during pregnancy.

Another one.

Because of Texas abortion law, her wanted pregnancy became a medical nightmare

At this point, doctors in pro-life states, will only perform medical abortion when women are in critical life-threatening condition. Which is not how medical practice works. In both cases, the procedure should have been performed much earlier. When the risk to the mothers was much lower.

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https://12ft.io/proxy?q=https%3A%2F%...s-17330742.php

We've already got early data on what happens when you deny women medical care. No, not from this SCOTUS decision, from the TX law, SB8, that allowed individuals to sue providers and anyone who was involved in "aiding or abetting" abortion services in civil court.

Delayed treatment due to the abortion laws led 57 percent of patients to experience serious health complications — nearly double the number of complications experienced by patients in other states who were able to get immediate abortions.

“Although limited by sample size, our findings offer a glimpse into the possible not-so-distant future,” the study’s authors concluded.

Now they admit the sample size of 28 patients is small, but it's a sign of what's to come as care providers try to navigate complex laws the expose them to a lot of potential legal/civil liability simply for trying to do their jobs and provide health care for women.

Because, as a reminder, it's never been about "protecting life", and it's always been about taking bodily autonomy away from women.

[s_bushido]

And another story of a woman who had to cross state lines for life-saving medical care.

Another one.

It's almost like literally everyone was telling them this was going to happen.

But it does point to something that I think needs to be hammered home at every opportunity. Abortion access isn't just about the nefarious Leftist desire to destroy families by allowing wanton sluts to sleep around with no consequences. Families that wanted and valued the life they were creating are forced into horrific situations because of this shit.

I guess it doesn't matter, though. Appealing to the alleged humanity of these legislators doesn't work in the case of children being mowed down in their classrooms, so it's not like it's going to work in this situation, either.