This may be an unpopular suggestion, but wouldn`t having a dungeon finder fix this problem of dungeon boosting?
Of course only server wide for the one you`re on.
You mean when the only content available was a fucking joke? Efficiently cleared BTs and sunwells aren't being done by pugs and wouldn't be regardless if GDKPs didn't exist.
So you just want shit groups where no one gives a fuck? Because that's what you get without strict rules lmao. The majority of players do not want to play that way. Whether it's "good" or not is irrelevant. If the majority of people in a video game want to play a certain way, that's the way it is. Why would the company taking those people's money go against that?
Why would discords go down? You think blizzard can or would monitor discords? You assume loot is traded without any word why? You could easily just do bids out of game and distribute loot in a number of ways that isn't suspicious.
The other thing people don't think about if they could magically prevent GDKPs from existing is "so what?" What do you think that changes? People argue they don't like GDKPs because people just buy gold from gold farmers/bots and they either can't compete or have to also buy gold. Okay so now people can't use gold to buy gear. Do you think the gold supply would actually decrease (less gold farmers)? Or more realistically, all mat prices just skyrocket due to inflation of gold supply and nothing else for people to spend it on. So now you're paying 800g for a flask and 40g per mana pot and you're exactly where you just started.
Not sure how you think it's overdramatic. It's exactly what dad servers end up being. Just a bunch of shitters at the game not clearing difficult raids and drooling over the ~60 people in the two guilds on the server that do actually clear raids.
You didn't have a choice but to engage with world buffs whether you supported them or not. Everyone has a choice to participate in GDKPs. If you want to argue that those are all the good raids though then you prove my point. Good players aren't going to pug shit and carry people. Most SR runs I've seen have far more insanely restrict rules on who can attend than any GDKP but it's required to ensure there aren't any shitters when people don't get compensated to carry them. Those who oppose GDKPs are a loud minority.
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damn you got a level 80 in BC? crazy
my guy out here doing 200 dps lmao
https://classic.warcraftlogs.com/rep...pe=damage-done
barely hitting 800 dps on a hunter
https://classic.warcraftlogs.com/cha...rned?zone=1007
crazy to me that I've literally never seen a good player against GDKPs
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No one's letting your doghsit 200 dps into raid regardless of the server my guy
Because the majority of players tend to not congregate on servers which promote activities against the ToS.
...at which point the loot would be distributed without anything in chat.
Nevermind that people receiving a amount of gold every week from a certain account who sends out gold to 24 other people also raises suspicion.
I'm not saying that you'd catch every GDKP, but the hassle to cover ones tracks certainly makes this whole ordeal unattractive for most players, nevermind the existing risk to get your account banned.
First off, a massive driver of inflation is RMT, that RMT is being funded by GDKP's because people can literally buy BiS gear via GDKP's.
With less demand for gold, the Inflation would also not be as extreme.
Second, people wouldn't buy more consumables because "they got nothing else to spend it on", i wouldn't suddenly buy more Mana pots because GDKP's are gone - why would i?
Like what is this logic? Do you believe people seriously choose between buying consumables and buying gear in GDKP?
Most GDKP's deduct your ass if you don't bring consumables as pumper.
If what you're saying is true and everyone stops raiding because GDKP's are gone, then the prices for consumables would go down because less people are buying consumables.
I played on Servers where GDKP's weren't as prevalent in Classic and they still managed to clear the raids.
And this also completely disregards the remaining SR pugs that, you know, also manage to clear.
I don't recall that World buffs were forcefully applied to me when i entered a raid.
Like please, if you don't see the obvious failure of logic in this sentence, then say so because i'm not going to further argue with a person who believes that World buffs were mandatory but GDKP's aren't, both are entirely player driven.
Both are (due to their prevalence within the community) or neither are (because the game doesn't enforce it).
...the obvious issue with the latter is that quite a few of those that are being carried acquired that gold through illicit means.
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You think average player is rolling around with 5k+ gold because they farmed it?
"They got it from gdkp". Yes from buyers that bought it.
"They got it from boosting". Yes from players that bought it/ earned it in gdkp from players that bought it.
You are delusional if you don't think 50% of the gold floating around in the game is bought gold from bots.
By your own admission none of the hypothetical people you talked about actually bought gold. Most gear in GDKPs are not paid with gold that they acquired through RMT.
Who here is actually deluded? Do you know how expensive it would be to buy a full bis set in sunwell for any competitive class at the height of P5?
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But it's not true, you don't farm for days. When strat boosting was still a thing, I was making 500g/hour hand over fist, quite a bit of that was just looted raw currency. Now with prepatch and SP 100 pulls I can probably expect 50-75g/reset per player as well. My gold isn't botted or acquired through RMT.
Likewise i've had a shaman alt for all of TBC and i've been running GDKPs with it since p2, and I have friends with gold cap who have done the same who haven't paid a cent on RMT.
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Not all carries are paid carrries. This was just a stupid change in general in both Retail and Classic servers. It fucks over people like myself who level alts or run friends through dungeons. Due to level scaling in retail, soloing legacy dungeons and raids is also dead ("No more soloing ICC, BT, Firelands or SoO for Transmog gear sets for you!"). You can forget about doing BFA, Legion, WoD and Pandaria quests that send you into dungeons and raids too because Blizzard said "fuck you, do the current expansion!" is why.
If this isn't a reason to make all Dungeons and Raids soloable, I don't know what is.
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5k gold is not a lot of gold. You can get over 300g just from doing dailies every day. I don't think anyone is denying that a lot of gold selling/buying goes on, but you have to also acknowledge that it's not hard to gain gold if you don't buy it. I know a tonne of people who are reluctant to use expensive consumables, to buy BOE items (example SWP crafted) etc because they want to conserve gold, not because they don't have any but because they don't want to spend it and they are in the 20k+ range, none of them even do GDKP runs.
I'm hovering around 5k and most of my gold goes on haste pots and respecs, I'd be hovering on a lot more if I didn't buy Hard Khorium Battleplate pattern and pay for Gloves of Immortal Dusk. If I had done all the dailies since SWP came out I'd probably be sitting on well over 20k.
Probably running on a Pentium 4
its impossible to make gold guys everyone must be buying it. https://imgur.com/a/K64wOQH