Originally Posted by
VMSmith
So, first off I'm going to point out that you didn't apologize for lying about what I said when you claimed I wanted Mythic gear for dailies quests, despite the fact that I said I want less extrinsic rewards. You completely reversed what I said and have no shame about it, instead choosing to double down by doing a new assertation of what I'm saying. You are dishonest.
Second, I'll quote myself:
So, I don't doubt that people find "vertical progression" to be fun, but it's exactly the driver behind boosts - the reward is all that is cared about. And that's my point, the experience wrapped around that reward is not fun for many. M+ itself is not fun for most people, but they still desire the reward because progression is fun. You are, in fact, arguing my point ... that it's only the rewards driving people and not the experience.
Now, sure, there are also many people that do find M+ fun. And good for them! But, again, that's why I say that there needs to be fun activities at ALL levels, and not just at the tippy-top most organized level. If fun, for most players, is just the hunt for better gear then you're going to get boosts ... because they want the reward but hate the process of getting the reward and boosts fulfill both needs for the player. And my original comment was driving to this, that if we want boosting to go away then the content itself needs to be fun in some way for everyone and rewards need to be minimized.
Now, as you point out, WoW has been a gear progression system for a good while. I would argue that it hasn't been strictly that since launch because there's been plenty of experiments with content that was not gear-rewarding (like Mage Tower, Isle of Thunder, Tillers Farm, Legion Fisherfriends) but it has been the general thrust. The point is, if WoW is going to remain primarily gear-driven then you can never end boosting so you might as well embrace it fully. Boosting is a direct consequence of WoW being a rewards-driven game rather than an experience-driven game.
If you choose to reply to me, start it with an apology for lying about what I posted in the first place, and then respond to the remainder politely, please. If your only interest is in scoring points and being an ass then I see no point in even talking to you and would rather not waste my time. Most of all, stop assuming what I think and read what I state I think, then respond to that rather than whatever bugaboo you got going on in your own head.