Frankly, it's quite probably her new boss.
Trial by fire, so to speak. And Holliway (the boss) might be wildly different than he was in Dan Slott's run; in there, Holliway shows up at the bar after he got her fired to offer her a job running his superhuman division, just like in the show, but he wants Walters, not She-Hulk, specifically. So that's obviously a complete reverse in the show, and you've got to wonder what else is gonna end up twisted. He might be actively evil as fuck.
That is the problem of jumping in to the middle of a discussion without reading the context behind it. The discussion has always been about what the intent of what she is saying is.
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If i wrote anything like this i'd get banned. Half the stuff people write to me would get me banned for writing literally the same thing back.
I'm not responsible for what other people write, but only what i write - and i havent been misogynistic once. I've been called everything from sociopath to racist in this thread alone with absolutely no repercussions.
Are you trying to say i should take responsebility for what other people write to me?
As for the last part and to stay on thread i havent actually invented anything. My gripe was that i dont understand why she needs to say those things in the first place. I've only ever quoted actual direct lines from the show so i'm not sure what you think ive made up.
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When is the last time someone called you a malignant sociopath, incel, fucking clueless(twice - by two different people talking to eachother about me), virgin, cringy snivelling whiner and a crybaby on this site without getting infracted exactly?
This is besides all the unfounded accusations of racism and misogyny btw.
I'll just leave this here.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LQ7B4TFOu4
Peace is a lie. There is only passion. Through passion I gain strength. Through strength I gain power.
Through power I gain victory. Through victory my chains are broken. The Force shall set me free.
–The Sith Code
It's probably best to keep in mind that, in the series, Jen has a co-worker that is very obviously an annoying and overbearing type, so there's probably a decent amount of projection when it comes to her talking about men lecturing her. Beyond that, though, both law school and the career law environment are well known for being distinctly unfriendly to women in the general sense. My niece just graduated from law school and passed her bar exam, and she could tell you some stories about law circles and the Boy's Club atmosphere that's predominant, not to mention casual sexism and related prejudices. Context is always key, but I can imagine Jen has encountered a number of annoying and likely infuriating obstacles in her career that Bruce never did as a man in a STEM career like nuclear/particle physics. So her proficiency at bottling her anger and managing her emotions is probably very on point and something she had to excel at above and beyond Bruce himself.
"We're more of the love, blood, and rhetoric school. Well, we can do you blood and love without the rhetoric, and we can do you blood and rhetoric without the love, and we can do you all three concurrent or consecutive. But we can't give you love and rhetoric without the blood. Blood is compulsory. They're all blood, you see." ― Tom Stoppard, Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead
You are a whiner. You took a simple statement and manufactured some pretty bizarre motivations for that statement. And have been playing the victim card ever since.
The accusations of misogyny are well founded. I have yet to see you be racist in this thread but honestly if I took a peek into your posting history I’m entirely certain I would find something. You brought it up!
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None of us want to mess around with our YouTube recommendations because you can’t be bothered to provide a brief synopsis. Hammerfist would at least tell us which half assed troll he was getting his thoughts from.
I'm not sure I'm explaining correctly. isn't Shang-Chi post credit scene - taking place after events of Chang-Chi? and in that scene Bruce still has his sling on? are you saying that timewise Shang-Chi happens before She-hulk and whoever released the footage just held on to it for that long? I suppose it could work that way and yeah, timing is very "convenient" gotta wonder if the lawfirm were the ones releasing it.... given how Halloway? was his name? was acting while waiting for Jen to call him?
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all of this, thank you for saying it better then I could.
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I'll save you the click - critical drinker. I've seen enough of his videos to tell you that while he is far from the worst of the "modern movies are trash cause woke pandering" crowd and can be occasionally even entertaining, he is definitely biased heavily in that direction.
Yeah I'm not talking about those people? I am talking about the people who have outright called it, and I quote, "man-hatey". To which I respond, that I do not think its man-hatey at all, and thats that. I'm also talking about my own personal interactions where people have said this to me in discussion, not in a forum, not someones youtube review and certainly not someone simply saying they didn't like the show lol.
Your entire post is made up of mostly assumption about what you think I am saying here, and I get it, especially on this forum, lots of people respond exactly that way. But go ahead and check out my post history- I'm not one of them. I simply disagree with the assessment that its "man-hatey" or "anti-men". You'll note I hope that I keep using quotes here. Because that's the only thing I am talking about. I have not shared a stance on anyone bashing the writing or the cgi or literally anything other than the, and again quoted, "anti-man" bit.
as for my comment about it being on the nose- your example isn't even using the same context I was? I'm not saying, "Oh your feathers are ruffled I guess it [my comment that its not anti-man] was on the nose". Not at all. I am saying that the lines in the show were, at worst, on the nose.
There are many reasons why we can't have conversations, especially on this forum, but I'm afraid you're not talking to the kind of person you think you are in this case, and my post history (outside of one incident with a sociopath) supports that.
yeah, there's been some and that's good, I just felt like it was a missed opportunity is all. I'd welcome a ruffalo hulk movie
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Moonknight was a phenomenal example, I can't wait for him to come back. The universal thing is a shame =( But hopefully like Ivanstone mentioned, the rights expiring opens him up for more.
That's ridiculous and untrue. Literally nothing I said there was against site rules. I keep making an effort to bring the discussion back on-topic to She-Hulk, even, to try and make sure those side discussions remain at least tangentially on-topic.
Have you reported those posts? Use the report function. It may take several days for a mod to get to it, but they do process them all, and a mod may not think it's worth hitting, but that's up to the mod team, not users.I'm not responsible for what other people write, but only what i write - and i havent been misogynistic once. I've been called everything from sociopath to racist in this thread alone with absolutely no repercussions.
No, I'm saying you should take some responsibility for the things you have posted, if you earned an infraction for them. Did you, even, in this thread? I know at least one other guy did, but he was way over the line and if you're defending him on it that's ridiculous.Are you trying to say i should take responsebility for what other people write to me?
Let's review, shall we?As for the last part and to stay on thread i havent actually invented anything. My gripe was that i dont understand why she needs to say those things in the first place. I've only ever quoted actual direct lines from the show so i'm not sure what you think ive made up.
You jumped in to shit on Tatiana Maslany's attractiveness, and stated you were "super tired of the female has to outdo male trope", as if the only way a woman could ever be better than a man is if someone's pushing a trope or agenda.
You claimed Moon Knight was a "big dump on masculinity", which is just ridiculous.
You started in on the details of She-Hulk here, where you dismiss women's issues with violence and prejudice directly, saying "obivous that when you have the main character say things like she is angry because she is a women and she has dealt with catcalling - as if thats the worst thing in the world". And here, you're inventing the "as if that's the worst thing in the world", which was not only not implied by the dialogue but directly contradicted because catcalling was an early mention in a list that ramped up to "murder". You also in this post claimed that Walters was "instantly stronger than the hulk in every single way", which is another invention; not only is it not true, the show takes pains to show Banner's significantly stronger, and you just chose to lie about that.
Here, you tried to claim a few things;
1> That "a pretty substantual majority dislikes this sort of thing", and to that, https://www.rottentomatoes.com/tv/sh...ttorney_at_law, categorically false and you don't have any backup for that claim; you just made it up out of nothing.
2> You claim "She can instantly turn back and forth between hulk and normal form because she is a women", which is a lie. She can turn back and forth because she's capable of controlling her anger. Nothing to do with "being a woman"; you made that up.
3> You said She had literally no identity crysis - she didnt struggle with rage issues or having to overcome and control her anger like bruce did for many years.", and while this is true, you're deliberately misrepresenting the show because it makes it clear that's a problem with Bruce specifically, as an individual; it has fuck-all to do with gender.
You made this comment; "I disagree with the whole women have it harder agenda." Which, y'know, is fairly misogynistic, given the mountains of extant prejudice out there including stuff like the current attack on women's basic self-ownership that's ongoing in the USA right now.
And from there we start getting repetitive and this is already pretty long. But the idea that you haven't been making shit up? Absolutely frickin' false and it's disrespectful as hell for you to shit there and unashamedly claim otherwise.
My view: Does not add anything to the scene.
Their view: adds things to the scene.
And it is funny "You smell hypocrisy" but you don't because I literally stated in the post you quote that I don't care if that is HOW he views the scene, but he is saying everyone who views the scene as presented is wrong because you have to connected the dots and believe it is saying more than it is.
He has every right to take the scene how he wants.
He does not have a right to tell me that I am being dishonest because I do not share his same assumptions.
You don't know what hypocrisy is.
Peace is a lie. There is only passion. Through passion I gain strength. Through strength I gain power.
Through power I gain victory. Through victory my chains are broken. The Force shall set me free.
–The Sith Code
I owe you an apology then. I had no idea that you are the absolute authority on what the showrunner and the entire writing team's mindset or intent was when they made that scene. You must be a brilliant mind reader or part of the production team to know the meaning of every scene/line with 100% clarity.
In that case I'm sure everyone else is wrong and you are only one who interprets the show correctly. My hat's off to you, Sir.
I don't care what the showrunner's opinion is. I care what the scene shows us specifically.
I am making a judgment on what the show shows us.
It is ironic you are calling me out for this when it better explains Peon's position. But, I guess you don't have a problem with the behavior so long as people agree with you right? If you want to argue what the intent of the writers was, you need something more than "Words made me feel this." Either a showrunner or writer will say it that was the intent otherwise it is just what someone feels.
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Peace is a lie. There is only passion. Through passion I gain strength. Through strength I gain power.
Through power I gain victory. Through victory my chains are broken. The Force shall set me free.
–The Sith Code