Last of Us [TV]

[everydaygamer]

Good episode again, though there was some unnecessary censorship. The game is pretty violent, I feel like they should just show people getting shot, the wounds etc, It gave a pretty visceral vibe on how brutal that world is.

I still can't get over how fugly is the actress playing ellie in this show, it was so easy to care for her in the game, It's mean but it was mostly because she was adorable looking.

It's not censorship, the focus was on how the death impacted Ellie rather than the death itself. They've already shown with the clickers that they aren't shy about violence but they also aren't going to be violent just for the sake of being violent.

[Khain]

I just thought the scene Ellie shot the guy was really weird, It was a sudden cut to her than the guy in the ground, no blood, no wound. In the game she just headshot the guy down and I thought it was awesome.

[Relapses]

It's not censorship, the focus was on how the death impacted Ellie rather than the death itself. They've already shown with the clickers that they aren't shy about violence but they also aren't going to be violent just for the sake of being violent.

That was my takeaway as well. If you watch the post-episode breakdown, Maizin says pretty much exactly this. They wanted to show that Ellie, like Joel, saw death but wasn't impacted by it. She turned around, walked away, heard the death happen then swallowed her emotions and moved on.

[Tech614]

I think the scene was a massive downgrade from the game either way but am willing to wait to see how they handle some other stuff.

In the game Joel is being drowned by a huge dude, in the show Joel has a guy that looks like the size of an average teenager choking him. The game scene just felt way more like Ellie actually had to kill than what was put out here, not even just the framing of the scene itself.

In the game the dude had forearms the size of the legs on the guy in the show and felt like a much more believable threat to Joel's life that Ellie actually had to act on. It's the first real misstep on the show though so we'll see if they have others.

[Rocksteady 87]

Good episode again, though there was some unnecessary censorship. The game is pretty violent, I feel like they should just show people getting shot, the wounds etc, It gave a pretty visceral vibe on how brutal that world is.

As others have pointed out, that wasn't censorship. The fact that you think it was means you really, really didn't understand the point of the scene.

Same goes for the guy who's complaining that the guy that got the jump on Joel wasn't a muscle-bound ubermensch. Or why they changed it so that Ellie didn't just headshot him. Him just being a kid himself and earing him cry and beg for his life added significantly to the point of the scene.

I still can't get over how fugly is the actress playing ellie in this show, it was so easy to care for her in the game, It's mean but it was mostly because she was adorable looking.

That's, uh... that's on you, man. And it's really creepy, too. "I need little kids to be cute for me to care about them." Fucking gross.

[everydaygamer]

I think the scene was a massive downgrade from the game either way but am willing to wait to see how they handle some other stuff.

In the game Joel is being drowned by a huge dude, in the show Joel has a guy that looks like the size of an average teenager choking him. The game scene just felt way more like Ellie actually had to kill than what was put out here, not even just the framing of the scene itself.

In the game the dude had forearms the size of the legs on the guy in the show and felt like a much more believable threat to Joel's life that Ellie actually had to act on. It's the first real misstep on the show though so we'll see if they have others.

Too be fair the show does emphasize that Joel hasn't been getting enough sleep so he's not really at the top of his game when the kid catches him by surprise.

[Freese]

I still can't get over how fugly is the actress playing ellie in this show, it was so easy to care for her in the game, It's mean but it was mostly because she was adorable looking.

Bro, she's 14-years old in the game and in the show.

“I can only care about children when I find them physically appealing” is maybe not something I’d say to people, but that’s just me.

[Kathandira]

Too be fair the show does emphasize that Joel hasn't been getting enough sleep so he's not really at the top of his game when the kid catches him by surprise.

As well, they constantly show that he has constant aches and pains. Everytime he stands up from sitting, laying or kneeling he groans and winces.

[everydaygamer]

As well, they constantly show that he has constant aches and pains. Everytime he stands up from sitting, laying or kneeling he groans and winces.

True, they do seem to be trying to make him a bit more vulnerable considering his age and the fact that he doesn't have video game logic to protect him here.

[molliewoof]

another really good episode

im starting to like Ellies character also which was one of my main gripes, they seem to have pulled that off really well.

Kansas felt like they could have started getting back to normal, very light on zombies compared to boston

[DarkAmbient]

That's, uh... that's on you, man. And it's really creepy, too. "I need little kids to be cute for me to care about them." Fucking gross.

Bella Ramsey isn't a "little kid", she was literally an adult for most of the filming.

Episode was alright, the weakest so far, but weak in relation to the others isn't bad. Didn't help coming off the back off such a strong episode. Still haven't really warmed to Ramsey as Ellie yet, there's something incongruous about her presence in the show.

[chitanblue]

I was a little weirded by Bella Ramsey being Ellie when I first started the show, and it's taken a few episodes for me to get used to it. Once I let go and started thinking "This is not the game, it's its own thing," I started to enjoy the show a lot more. Normally I don't like having to do mental gymnastics to enjoy something but whatever I like it. That being said I REALLY HOPE they deviate from the second game's plot if the show makes it that far lol.

[Shadowferal]

Good to see Anna Torv again. I wondered since I thought she did an excellent job on Fringe.

Thank you - What I knew her from was driving me crazy!! And I'm a Gen Xer who doesn't always remember to go search IMDB...or doesn't care enough in the moment to, and then forgets. =D

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[Khain]

Bro, she's 14-years old in the game and in the show.

“I can only care about children when I find them physically appealing” is maybe not something I’d say to people, but that’s just me.

Basic human psychology, It's just a fact that people who are good looking get treated better than the ones that are not.

And btw 14 years old is no longer a child, and in most places including where I live it is the legal age of consent.

[Tech614]

True, they do seem to be trying to make him a bit more vulnerable considering his age and the fact that he doesn't have video game logic to protect him here.

Which is going to end up beyond stupid when he still has to have video game logic to escape being held by what is basically a small military to go on a rescue mission, or somehow survives days with a bad gut infection.

Sure they can just "change" this stuff but it would be changing some of the more iconic parts of the story. Aches and pains are w/e but a guy of Joel's history and survival along with what will happen shouldn't be losing to a teenager and unable to over power him without Ellie's help. It was pretty bad framing ngl but like I said it's also the first real misstep so I'm not that worried about it unless it keeps happening.

[Kumorii]

Another good episode.
Shame it was a shorter... or rather standard length episode.

I think Bella is a pretty good Ellie when it comes to behavior and speech, which I guess is from good direction since she hasn't played the game. Think she started to do so recently though. Not saying it like a negative but more to highlight that the creators seem to care about the game.

I like watching them bond.
The scene with the kid she shot was a really good one all around. You could really feel the fear.

[everydaygamer]

Which is going to end up beyond stupid when he still has to have video game logic to escape being held by what is basically a small military to go on a rescue mission, or somehow survives days with a bad gut infection.

Sure they can just "change" this stuff but it would be changing some of the more iconic parts of the story. Aches and pains are w/e but a guy of Joel's history and survival along with what will happen shouldn't be losing to a teenager and unable to over power him without Ellie's help. It was pretty bad framing ngl but like I said it's also the first real misstep so I'm not that worried about it unless it keeps happening.

Well when I say video game logic I mean they can't just have him get injured and shrug it off like no big deal. The physical aspect has to matter more then it would in a game. So if he's hurt it's gonna be a problem and he can't be expected to take down a couple guys without getting tired because he's 56, he has limits.

He'll still have basic plot protection you'd expect in any show.

[DarkAmbient]

Episode 5 is airing two days early to make way for the Superbowl. UK will be able to watch at 2am Saturday.

[Jastall]

Which is going to end up beyond stupid when he still has to have video game logic to escape being held by what is basically a small military to go on a rescue mission, or somehow survives days with a bad gut infection.

Sure they can just "change" this stuff but it would be changing some of the more iconic parts of the story. Aches and pains are w/e but a guy of Joel's history and survival along with what will happen shouldn't be losing to a teenager and unable to over power him without Ellie's help. It was pretty bad framing ngl but like I said it's also the first real misstep so I'm not that worried about it unless it keeps happening.

They may just nerf the Fireflies a bit to make it a bit more realistic for one dude to slaughter an entire military base by his lonesome. Or maybe he rescues her another way, by being more cunning than them rather than just ramboing his way because lol video game.

Heck that would be a better way to present Part 2 as well, if they go there. I'd rather Ellie use her hard-earned survival skills to sneak her way through Seattle than have her massacre a couple hundred people just for being there.

All that said I do agree the framing was a bit rough, guy should have been bigger. But the show does things right far more than it does wrong so I can get over it easily.

[Tech614]

They may just nerf the Fireflies a bit to make it a bit more realistic for one dude to slaughter an entire military base by his lonesome. Or maybe he rescues her another way, by being more cunning than them rather than just ramboing his way because lol video game.

Heck that would be a better way to present Part 2 as well, if they go there. I'd rather Ellie use her hard-earned survival skills to sneak her way through Seattle than have her massacre a couple hundred people just for being there.

All that said I do agree the framing was a bit rough, guy should have been bigger. But the show does things right far more than it does wrong so I can get over it easily.

I never expected the hosp scene to play out full rambo like in gameplay but yea, more just talking about the scene with him escaping from an armed escort out of the building. If they change that iconic scene too much it would be pretty lame. I think there is a big difference with things that are cutscenes vs things that are gameplay, obviously in gameplay you are an unstoppable 1 man military for video game reasons but most things that play out in cutscenes are grounded and don't need to be altered.