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    Demon-hunters have no purpose

    Can someone give me an example where demon-hunters were used after the Legion Expansion?

    We had a major role to play in Legion and Pre-legion expansion, but now it seems dull. Heck, even the void elfs had some love during the battle of Undercity (pre event battle of azeroth)

    You may argue that DH have a role and is to serve the alliance and horde, but the problem is even 'faction' leaders don't use them.

    I play WoW for the fun of it, but also for the lore. Will there be still hope for the demon hunters?

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    well... same as DKs after Wrath... And Evokers after Dragonflight I suppose

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    Class quests from Legion need to return and be a hallmark feature for all future expansions. The amount of story and lore in Legion was amazing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drakenoteeth View Post
    Can someone give me an example where demon-hunters were used after the Legion Expansion?

    We had a major role to play in Legion and Pre-legion expansion, but now it seems dull. Heck, even the void elfs had some love during the battle of Undercity (pre event battle of azeroth)

    You may argue that DH have a role and is to serve the alliance and horde, but the problem is even 'faction' leaders don't use them.

    I play WoW for the fun of it, but also for the lore. Will there be still hope for the demon hunters?
    Demons are still rather plentiful, remember that the burning crusade was "just" a faction of the demons if by far the most well known.
    Additionally Sargeras is "merely" imprisoned and as such may rally the burning crusade once more if freed.

    Additionally warlocks and plenty of nonaligned demons still exist, plus the persistent threat of the dreadlords may make demon hunters more than useful in the coming expansions (assuming WoW survives the *achem* disappointing legacies of the past few expansions).

    And keep in mind that fel can be used effectively against various other cosmic aligned creatures as well, Xe'ra's death setves to illustrate this but there is little reason to believe it wouldn't be highly effective against, in example, hidden void threats as well.
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    Lots of "I ate a Succubus" elves out there

    So... Yeah
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    Tbh, they have fulfilled their purpose and now they can just use their powers to just support their race/faction, most Demon Hunters joined Illidan out of vengeance or to protect or serve their people after all.

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    Yeah, it’s weird that all demons just vanished out of existence as soon as “Legion” ended.


    …wait a second… no they didn’t.

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    If there's ever an expansion or content patch where we're dealing with the leftover demons or the Legion remnant, then sure, DHs will once more take a marquee role no doubt. Same with DKs who had the limelight in WotLK, and then sort of just faded into the background as specialists within their respective factions. DHs are even more in the vein of loner/solitary operator types of people, though, so they're not likely to take up leadership positions or work in regimented militaries. They're more like freelancers.
    "We're more of the love, blood, and rhetoric school. Well, we can do you blood and love without the rhetoric, and we can do you blood and rhetoric without the love, and we can do you all three concurrent or consecutive. But we can't give you love and rhetoric without the blood. Blood is compulsory. They're all blood, you see." ― Tom Stoppard, Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead

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    They do have a purpose. They must continue sacrificing everything.... because what will we give?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drakenoteeth View Post
    Can someone give me an example where demon-hunters were used after the Legion Expansion?

    We had a major role to play in Legion and Pre-legion expansion, but now it seems dull. Heck, even the void elfs had some love during the battle of Undercity (pre event battle of azeroth)

    You may argue that DH have a role and is to serve the alliance and horde, but the problem is even 'faction' leaders don't use them.

    I play WoW for the fun of it, but also for the lore. Will there be still hope for the demon hunters?
    Can you give me an example of where monk and pandarens were used after mists?

    Same argument. Meaningless drivel of a topic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Utrrabbit View Post
    Can you give me an example of where monk and pandarens were used after mists?
    There's a named Panderen Mistweaver Monk that's defending an objective in the Horde War Campaign in BfA - I remember her because she had a tendency to do the VO pop-up repeatedly during a particular set of quests she was an objective of. Not to mention the Monk boss you fight in the Battle of Dazar'alor raid, Mestrah the Illuminated, who's a Draenei Monk (who I remember for the often meme'd "You face a dragon of the Light!")
    "We're more of the love, blood, and rhetoric school. Well, we can do you blood and love without the rhetoric, and we can do you blood and rhetoric without the love, and we can do you all three concurrent or consecutive. But we can't give you love and rhetoric without the blood. Blood is compulsory. They're all blood, you see." ― Tom Stoppard, Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead

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    Quote Originally Posted by Utrrabbit View Post
    Can you give me an example of where monk and pandarens were used after mists?

    Same argument. Meaningless drivel of a topic.
    Yeah sure, Class halls in Legion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drakenoteeth View Post
    Can someone give me an example where demon-hunters were used after the Legion Expansion?

    We had a major role to play in Legion and Pre-legion expansion, but now it seems dull. Heck, even the void elfs had some love during the battle of Undercity (pre event battle of azeroth)

    You may argue that DH have a role and is to serve the alliance and horde, but the problem is even 'faction' leaders don't use them.

    I play WoW for the fun of it, but also for the lore. Will there be still hope for the demon hunters?
    I remember that in the campaign they said that once the legion was defeated they would return to retake black temple

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drakenoteeth View Post
    Can someone give me an example where demon-hunters were used after the Legion Expansion?

    We had a major role to play in Legion and Pre-legion expansion, but now it seems dull. Heck, even the void elfs had some love during the battle of Undercity (pre event battle of azeroth)

    You may argue that DH have a role and is to serve the alliance and horde, but the problem is even 'faction' leaders don't use them.

    I play WoW for the fun of it, but also for the lore. Will there be still hope for the demon hunters?
    You realize that Dreadlords are the ones pulling strings right? or you just being dramatic?

    STFU

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    Yeah, it's why I could never get into hero classes. They're always tied to their respective expansion's storyline

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drakenoteeth View Post
    Yeah sure, Class halls in Legion.
    Weak argument. DH has a class hall.

    Your whining that DH have no lore reasons to be part of major plots. Every race after the xpac they are introduced are merged in with the main group.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aucald View Post
    There's a named Panderen Mistweaver Monk that's defending an objective in the Horde War Campaign in BfA - I remember her because she had a tendency to do the VO pop-up repeatedly during a particular set of quests she was an objective of. Not to mention the Monk boss you fight in the Battle of Dazar'alor raid, Mestrah the Illuminated, who's a Draenei Monk (who I remember for the often meme'd "You face a dragon of the Light!")
    Thats not what the OP asked and what I was being sarcastic about. Every race has named npcs in 1 order hall or another.

    The OP wans DH to have main story plot

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    They existed during Wrath of the Lich King. What were they useful for then?

    I feel like there are so many factions within the Alliance and Horde, they dont all need the spotlight.

    What's more of an issue for me is when a subfaction *would* be incredibly useful but just isn't present for no reason. Like the Lightforged with their functioning laser-ship during literally the entirety of Battle For Azeroth. Or the Silver Covenant during the Void Elf quests; there was a full on army of High Elves in Nighthold and then just no mention of them aside from a couple of nameless NPCs in the rift.

    Or how the Dragonmaw orcs have been canon, main universe Horde members since Cataclysm, but they didn't add gray orcs as a customization option. Even though their alliance counterpart, Wildhammer dwarves, were. It's okay though, we got.... sand trolls. With no quests explaining or even hinting that they joined the Horde.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Utrrabbit View Post
    Thats not what the OP asked and what I was being sarcastic about. Every race has named npcs in 1 order hall or another.

    The OP wans DH to have main story plot
    The OP just asked for a situation where DHs are "used" beyond Legion, and openly wondering what their purpose is post-Legion. The question has been largely asked and answered at this point, but it's a valid enough question on its face. Demon Hunters don't have the same prominence within the Horde and Alliance that either DKs or Monks apparently enjoy (hence my mention of the two NPCs in BfA), though Marius Felbane, who's apparently affiliated with the Horde, and his platonic life-partner Tehd Shoemaker can be found in Zuldazar in BfA, hunting down a rogue demon named Syrawon the Dominus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Utrrabbit View Post
    Weak argument. DH has a class hall.

    Your whining that DH have no lore reasons to be part of major plots. Every race after the xpac they are introduced are merged in with the main group.

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    Thats not what the OP asked and what I was being sarcastic about. Every race has named npcs in 1 order hall or another.

    The OP wans DH to have main story plot
    It's not a weak argument, because you stated "Can you give me an example of where monk and pandarens were used after mists?" I replied with class order halls in legion which is the 2nd time that class was focued on. It's a logical factional reply.

    Legion was the first expansion where Demon-hunters were introduced as a playable class, which is the only time that DH was focused on, after that zero.
    Pandaren/monks had Mist of Pandaria and then class order halls in legion which gives them superiority, hence my whole thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amnaught View Post
    They existed during Wrath of the Lich King. What were they useful for then?

    I feel like there are so many factions within the Alliance and Horde, they dont all need the spotlight.

    What's more of an issue for me is when a subfaction *would* be incredibly useful but just isn't present for no reason. Like the Lightforged with their functioning laser-ship during literally the entirety of Battle For Azeroth. Or the Silver Covenant during the Void Elf quests; there was a full on army of High Elves in Nighthold and then just no mention of them aside from a couple of nameless NPCs in the rift.

    Or how the Dragonmaw orcs have been canon, main universe Horde members since Cataclysm, but they didn't add gray orcs as a customization option. Even though their alliance counterpart, Wildhammer dwarves, were. It's okay though, we got.... sand trolls. With no quests explaining or even hinting that they joined the Horde.
    I don't understand your bold statement regarding DH and Wotlk. Correct me if I am wrong, but Legion as a threat existed back in wotlk timeline, they had a purpose. I am talking about after Legion expansion, where we basically destroyed the burning legion

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    Quote Originally Posted by velspine View Post
    You realize that Dreadlords are the ones pulling strings right? or you just being dramatic?

    STFU
    Dreadlords are nathrezim, not demons.


    They had an Affiliation with the burning legion, and we killed nearly all of them in Legion. Mal'ganis was used in shadowlands, but Blizzard even then didn't use demon-hunters...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drakenoteeth View Post
    Dreadlords are nathrezim, not demons.

    They had an Affiliation with the burning legion, and we killed nearly all of them in Legion. Mal'ganis was used in shadowlands, but Blizzard even then didn't use demon-hunters...
    Even in Shadowlands, the Nathrezim are classed as demons. They may not have originally been so when they were created by Denathrius to infiltrate the other realms of the metacosm, but they're demonic now due to said affiliation with the Legion (of which they were often high-ranking members and leaders). If there are any non-demon individual Nathrezim in existence, we've yet to see them.
    "We're more of the love, blood, and rhetoric school. Well, we can do you blood and love without the rhetoric, and we can do you blood and rhetoric without the love, and we can do you all three concurrent or consecutive. But we can't give you love and rhetoric without the blood. Blood is compulsory. They're all blood, you see." ― Tom Stoppard, Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead

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