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    Quote Originally Posted by Doctor Amadeus View Post
    Yes I’m alright with rights vs wrong. Rules vs chaos.
    Yeah...Fascists always think they're "right".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Endus View Post
    You can't possibly believe this. Not unless you're openly lying about not being an extremist Christian, or unless you literally do not understand what the words in question actually mean. The latter being the more likely.

    Like, I'm not saying "oh but perhaps you'd be wrong". I'm saying you'd have to be completely delusional in the medical sense, a danger to yourself and those around you, to believe that.
    I understand what the words mean and I’ve specifically mentioned the context. As to your personal opinion of me. I’ve stopped caring about that when I’ve realized your reasoning when it comes to such judgments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evil Midnight Bomber View Post
    Yeah...Fascists always think they're "right".
    Yes I believe in authority and a society run by grown ups with rules and structure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doctor Amadeus View Post
    I understand what the words mean and I’ve specifically mentioned the context.
    You clearly don't, because there is no context where "socialism" and "Christian fascism" are comparable. It's just a lie. An obvious and rather sad one.

    As to your personal opinion of me. I’ve stopped caring about that when I’ve realized your reasoning when it comes to such judgments.
    I made no personal judgement other than that you're not posting honestly.

    Yes I believe in authority and a society run by grown ups with rules and structure.
    Nothing about that suggests fascism. Again, we're back to you being dishonest.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Doctor Amadeus View Post

    Yes I believe in authority and a society run by grown ups with rules and structure.
    So did the Nazis.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Endus View Post
    You clearly don't, because there is no context where "socialism" and "Christian fascism" are comparable. It's just a lie. An obvious and rather sad one.
    In a perfect world both work.


    Nothing about that suggests fascism. Again, we're back to you being dishonest.

    That Depends on perspective. If your perspective is that the rules only apply to everyone else it’s probably all the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doctor Amadeus View Post
    In a perfect world both work.
    If by "work" in the case of fascism you mean "endless brutalising of innocent people".

    That's what you're willfully deflecting from. You can't support fascism, any flavor of it, and be a good person.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Doctor Amadeus View Post
    In a perfect world both work.
    You should really take that #ANTIFA out of your signature.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doctor Amadeus View Post
    I understand what the words mean and I’ve specifically mentioned the context. As to your personal opinion of me. I’ve stopped caring about that when I’ve realized your reasoning when it comes to such judgments.

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    Yes I believe in authority and a society run by grown ups with rules and structure.
    We have that now you nazi dingbat. It has it's problems but holy fuck is it ever better than fascism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Endus View Post
    If by "work" in the case of fascism you mean "endless brutalising of innocent people".

    That's what you're willfully deflecting from. You can't support fascism, any flavor of it, and be a good person.
    Again if you view any kind of rule as a problem. By that I mean having rules and laws that apply to some but not all and only when it’s popular based on how people feel as opposed to logic and sane reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evil Midnight Bomber View Post
    You should really take that #ANTIFA out of your signature.
    Why?

    First off it’s a joke in reference to far right who believe Antifa even exists. IT’s doesn’t.


    Second, I don’t support fascist anymore than socialism. Because in this world they don’t work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doctor Amadeus View Post
    Again if you view any kind of rule as a problem. By that I mean having rules and laws that apply to some but not all and only when it’s popular based on how people feel as opposed to logic and sane reason.
    For the sake of simplicity
    Fascism- a political system headed by a dictator in which the government controls business and labor and opposition is not permitted.
    Example: Nazi Germany
    So not only would you have been fine with ratting out your Jewish neighbors, you probably would have been one of the officers giving that order. Fascism, logic, and sane reason do not belong in a sentence together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calfredd View Post
    For the sake of simplicity So not only would you have been fine with ratting out your Jewish neighbors, you probably would have been one of the officers giving that order. Fascism, logic, and sane reason do not belong in a sentence together.
    Again fascism in this world doesn't work, Just as socialism. No I wouldn't have rated anyone out because they were Jewish and the example you give is another clear example of it NOT working.

    However the idea, in a vacuum or whatever, in some idealistic Christian that I believe then Yes, I would support it. We don't live in that world and I can't imagine any world where that would work, because the idea is abhorrent as it is applied.

    The same can be said for socialism, many example of horrific practices I wouldn't support either.

    I do think that socialism can and would work in a perfect world either.
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    It's clear you don't know the definitions of both.
    Socialism can co exist with other political forms. There are tons of examples in this day and age.
    Fascism can not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doctor Amadeus View Post
    First off it’s a joke in reference to far right who believe Antifa even exists. IT’s doesn’t
    Antifa exists. Its not the boogeyman the far right makes it out to be...but it exists.


    Second, I don’t support fascist anymore than socialism. Because in this world they don’t work.
    You realize that everyone can see all your posts talking about how much you support fascism, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hansworst View Post
    It's clear you don't know the definitions of both.
    Socialism can co exist with other political forms. There are tons of examples in this day and age.
    Fascism can not.
    Fascism simply refers to laws and how the state acts on those laws, Socialism refers to an economic structures not the same thing, but both can exist at the same time. Neither is dependent on the other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evil Midnight Bomber View Post
    Antifa exists. Its not the boogeyman the far right makes it out to be...but it exists.
    No they don't exist at all




    Quote Originally Posted by Evil Midnight Bomber View Post
    You realize that everyone can see all your posts talking about how much you support fascism, right?
    I realize you're trying to provoke a reaction as if you speak for anyone else unable to read everything I wrote.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doctor Amadeus View Post
    I realize you're trying to provoke a reaction as if you speak for anyone else unable to read everything I wrote.
    This you?
    Quote Originally Posted by Doctor Amadeus View Post
    The truth is I could as a Christian go for and bow to Christofascism.
    This is me responding to that statement:
    Translation: Fascism is fine as long as I am not among those that are being oppressed by it.
    This is you responding to what I said:
    Yes I’m alright with rights vs wrong. Rules vs chaos.
    me:
    Yeah...Fascists always think they're "right".
    You:
    Yes I believe in authority and a society run by grown ups with rules and structure.


    This isn't snapchat...your messages don't disappear after 5 minutes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evil Midnight Bomber View Post
    This you?


    This is me responding to that statement:


    This is you responding to what I said:


    me:


    You:




    This isn't snapchat...your messages don't disappear after 5 minutes.
    Yes and…. Your point?

    I’m not advocating for fascism. I spoke of a hypothetical I agreed with.

    I also stated why I don’t agree with it. You don’t have to be ok with that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doctor Amadeus View Post
    Yes and…. Your point?

    I’m not advocating for fascism. I spoke of a hypothetical I agreed with.

    I also stated why I don’t agree with it. You don’t have to be ok with that.
    Where people are having a problem is that part of what defines fascism as opposed to other variations of authoritarian leadership is the idea that it is acceptable to use violence to oppress anyone who the state does not like for whatever reason. That's the kind of thing we find a bit screwed up, you're skipping well past just a theocracy and going straight to 'murder the unbelievers'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doctor Amadeus View Post
    Yes and…. Your point?

    I’m not advocating for fascism. I spoke of a hypothetical I agreed with.

    I also stated why I don’t agree with it. You don’t have to be ok with that.
    You stated why you don't agree with Nick Fuentes version of fascism....but that you would support a more general form of fascism... just so long as you aren't among those being oppressed by it.

    The issue isn't whether or not I am okay with that. The issue is why you are ok with thhat
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  19. #59
    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    Literally in the Constitution.
    actually its not. the Constitution actually says do not establish religion NOR ban religion. it takes a neutral posture on religion, which is not godless. the Constitution is more agnostic to avoid controversy.

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    Nick Fuentes is not part of the GOP. he has no audience. people give him too much credit. No-one should like Alex Jones because he associates with the guy. if people are seriously trying to say the GOP is a bunch of nazis because Fuentes exists, thats just smear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kokolums View Post
    Nick Fuentes is not part of the GOP. he has no audience. people give him too much credit. No-one should like Alex Jones because he associates with the guy. if people are seriously trying to say the GOP is a bunch of nazis because Fuentes exists, thats just smear.
    It's just a coincidence that Fuentes crosses paths with Republican members of Congress, particularly in the "Freedom Caucus", with some frequency.

    Nobody is actually saying that, though. What we're saying is that many in the GOP seem incredibly comfortable with overt Nazi's or white supremacists being a part of the party, and have no qualms attending the same events as they do in an official capacity. Because that's what's happening. It's not just in your head, it's real life.

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