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    Here is the full world map, by the way. Ringing Deeps is the smallest zone and there is a suspicious empty area to the left of Hallowsfall and AK.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lorgar Aurelian View Post
    A sorcerer, and how do you be one of those?through studying magic, making him a nerd.

    And Moria pretending like she can do any thing even though she can’t as she’s just a council member who failed to take over IF because she was a nerd and the jock Varian shoved her into a locker means she’s still a nerd.
    Sassy, aggressive nerds if you ask me.

    You know what characterizes dwarves?
    "Predominantly, Dark Iron dwarves are known for their fiery tempers and fierce determination."
    "All dwarves are known for being stubborn and admiring bravery. As discovered during the first contact between dwarves and humans, the two races share a common love for battle and storytelling. Dwarves are fighters by nature and will do battle even to their deaths, preferring it to living as slaves, which they consider to be honorless."

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    Quote Originally Posted by username993720 View Post
    Sassy, aggressive nerds if you ask me.

    You know what characterizes dwarves?
    "Predominantly, Dark Iron dwarves are known for their fiery tempers and fierce determination."
    "All dwarves are known for being stubborn and admiring bravery. As discovered during the first contact between dwarves and humans, the two races share a common love for battle and storytelling. Dwarves are fighters by nature and will do battle even to their deaths, preferring it to living as slaves, which they consider to be honorless."
    Damn, that's right, every dwarf has to be exactly the same. I forgot that part of story writing.

    Humans have also regularly displayed noble and altruistic attitudes and actions. These qualities have led to human society producing notable heroic and villainous figures in recent history.

    Most humans take comfort in having an orderly and just society.
    Can't believe Arthas is a self-insert
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xilurm View Post
    Apparently Holly Longdale has been doing interviews too, but I can't find any.
    Here's a great one she did with Mr. GM. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Srs6pUwSjg

    Bellular said that he did not have a schedule interview with her, but she came over to talk for a bit before his interviews with other devs.

    Holly rocks

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    Quote Originally Posted by allegrian View Post
    So there'll be no mark of mastery in season 4 to get a free heroic or elite piece?
    This is still a thing. 2k m+ rating, challenger in pvp or killing every raid boss on fated heroic of a specific raid to get it.
    https://www.wowhead.com/item=217410/...ark-of-mastery

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    Quote Originally Posted by username993720 View Post
    Sassy, aggressive nerds if you ask me.

    You know what characterizes dwarves?
    "Predominantly, Dark Iron dwarves are known for their fiery tempers and fierce determination."
    "All dwarves are known for being stubborn and admiring bravery. As discovered during the first contact between dwarves and humans, the two races share a common love for battle and storytelling. Dwarves are fighters by nature and will do battle even to their deaths, preferring it to living as slaves, which they consider to be honorless."
    Mate the dark irons were literally living as slaves instead of fighting to there deaths and
    Thaurissan notable got his underlings to do his bidding to steal Ironfoe instead of fighting for it.

    By all accounts Thaurissan was charismatic but a coward kidnapping Moria because he was scared of a straight up fight with ironforge and then spending his time swooning over her instead of rising up against Rag or making a real effort to fight If.

    Moira had some more balls trying to take over If but once she failed she spends all her time teaching and studying with her son.

    There both big fat nerds and as such there son followed suit.
    All I ever wanted was the truth. Remember those words as you read the ones that follow. I never set out to topple my father's kingdom of lies from a sense of misplaced pride. I never wanted to bleed the species to its marrow, reaving half the galaxy clean of human life in this bitter crusade. I never desired any of this, though I know the reasons for which it must be done. But all I ever wanted was the truth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by username993720 View Post
    Sassy, aggressive nerds if you ask me.

    You know what characterizes dwarves?
    "Predominantly, Dark Iron dwarves are known for their fiery tempers and fierce determination."
    "All dwarves are known for being stubborn and admiring bravery. As discovered during the first contact between dwarves and humans, the two races share a common love for battle and storytelling. Dwarves are fighters by nature and will do battle even to their deaths, preferring it to living as slaves, which they consider to be honorless."
    That's a general descriptions about dwarves as a people, not an end all, be all character description for every individual dwarf ever born.

    Dagran is just happens to be a nerdy teen, deal with it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by username993720 View Post
    Sassy, aggressive nerds if you ask me.

    You know what characterizes dwarves?
    "Predominantly, Dark Iron dwarves are known for their fiery tempers and fierce determination."
    "All dwarves are known for being stubborn and admiring bravery. As discovered during the first contact between dwarves and humans, the two races share a common love for battle and storytelling. Dwarves are fighters by nature and will do battle even to their deaths, preferring it to living as slaves, which they consider to be honorless."
    I bet you're one of those people who complain about DnD changing orcs to not be inherently evil. Even though Warcraft did that first. It's a common trope, in many ways Bilbo & Frodo Baggins were outliers for their racial stereotype.

    JRR Tolkein when characterizing Dwarves: "They're jewish" that's a direct quote; don't tell the Goblins.
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    Quote Originally Posted by allegrian View Post
    Merging dark irons with playable dwarves in cata brought the mage and warlock classes to dwarves, although you could say they could already be mages in lore, and weren't in game for balance reasons as in the beta there wera mage dwarves. I think dark iron fire mages look awesome and their beards look more like sorcerer beards than warrior beards, unlike the more braided epic beards from bronzebeard and now earthen.

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    So there'll be no mark of mastery in season 4 to get a free heroic or elite piece?
    There is one but you can't get an elite piece this time since it's using the voted recolours non-elite look (unlike the propper pvp items which use s3 looks). So on a hunter you could get the purple pvp s1 ones, not the red elite ones.

    Of course they could still hotfix it in but that's how it works on the ptr last time I checked.

    And I really hope this is just a season 4 change in order to prevent people from getting the elite items after their season is over. TWW season 1 hopefully has the elite colours again.
    Last edited by Lady Atia; 2024-04-19 at 04:17 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lorgar Aurelian View Post
    Mate the dark irons were literally living as slaves instead of fighting to there deaths and
    Thaurissan notable got his underlings to do his bidding to steal Ironfoe instead of fighting for it.

    By all accounts Thaurissan was charismatic but a coward kidnapping Moria because he was scared of a straight up fight with ironforge and then spending his time swooning over her instead of rising up against Rag or making a real effort to fight If.

    Moira had some more balls trying to take over If but once she failed she spends all her time teaching and studying with her son.

    There both big fat nerds and as such there son followed suit.
    I'd say bronzebear are also nerds as they are obessed with archeology and such. The only non-nerd dwarves would be the wildhammers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Makorus View Post
    Damn, that's right, every dwarf has to be exactly the same. I forgot that part of story writing.
    Nope, but they have an overarching characterization that has to shape their various people. Otherwise, what's the point of them being dwarves?

    Can't believe Arthas is a self-insert
    That's why he's a Death Knight.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lorgar Aurelian View Post
    There both big fat nerds and as such there son followed suit.
    There was nothing nerdy about them. They didn't have voice-lines like: "this is interesting, can't wait to study it. Knowledge is power. Thank science" etc, etc...

    Quote Originally Posted by Raetary View Post
    That's a general descriptions about dwarves as a people, not an end all, be all character description for every individual dwarf ever born.

    Dagran is just happens to be a nerdy teen, deal with it.
    I'm not saying he can't. I just firmly believe they based his looks on one of developers. Looks way too "modern" american for a Dark Iron Dwarf, if you ask me.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ersula View Post
    I bet you're one of those people who complain about DnD changing orcs to not be inherently evil. Even though Warcraft did that first. It's a common trope, in many ways Bilbo & Frodo Baggins were outliers for their racial stereotype.
    No, not at all. But, they are still savages, with or without fel corruption. WoD showed us that.

    JRR Tolkein when characterizing Dwarves: "They're jewish" that's a direct quote; don't tell the Goblins.
    They're scottish, but whatever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady Atia View Post
    There is one but you can't get an elite piece this time since it's using the voted recolours non-elite look (unlike the propper pvp items which use s3 looks). So on a hunter you could get the purple pvp s1 ones, not the red elite ones.

    Of course they could still hotfix it in but that's how it works on the ptr last time I checked.

    And I really hope this is just a season 4 change in order to prevent people from getting the elite items after their season is over. TWW season 1 hopefully has the elite colours again.
    So even if the voted look is the s3 one, you can't get any elite peace, right? That sucks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by username993720 View Post
    I'm not saying he can't. I just firmly believe they based his looks on one of developers. Looks way too "modern" american for a Dark Iron Dwarf, if you ask me.
    Because Glasses are an american thing? Or are you just thrown by him not having a beard? He's still supposed to be a child. This all seems to be you seeing the first child dwarf in WoW history & not being able to accept it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by username993720 View Post
    There was nothing nerdy about them. They didn't have voice-lines like: "this is interesting, can't wait to study it. Knowledge is power. Thank science" etc, etc...
    Who cares about there voice lines, there Lore Makes them nerds.

    Moria spends all her time studying and teaching with her only friend being Anduin another nerd.

    And Thaurissan likely does the same given that he’s wizard not a warrior and a coward to scared to fight for freedom to scared to fight IF to scared to even fight for ironfoe. Hell he likely wrote Moria poetry given that there suppose to be Romeo and Juliet.
    All I ever wanted was the truth. Remember those words as you read the ones that follow. I never set out to topple my father's kingdom of lies from a sense of misplaced pride. I never wanted to bleed the species to its marrow, reaving half the galaxy clean of human life in this bitter crusade. I never desired any of this, though I know the reasons for which it must be done. But all I ever wanted was the truth.

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    i guess im soy for not having a lushious beard when i was 16

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    Dagan is the son of two casters. Not sure why its a big surprise he's a caster. It's not like we're redoing the Anduin/Dagran "I'm not worthy" plotline he's just a clothie prince character.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheezits View Post
    Here is the full world map, by the way. Ringing Deeps is the smallest zone and there is a suspicious empty area to the left of Hallowsfall and AK.
    Anyone able to see how it scales relative to DF, Northrend, Pandaria, etc? Would be helpful in refuting the "expansion price patch" nonsense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by allegrian View Post
    I'd say bronzebear are also nerds as they are obessed with archeology and such. The only non-nerd dwarves would be the wildhammers.
    That’s true they pretty much set there whole society to it once they found Ulduman.
    All I ever wanted was the truth. Remember those words as you read the ones that follow. I never set out to topple my father's kingdom of lies from a sense of misplaced pride. I never wanted to bleed the species to its marrow, reaving half the galaxy clean of human life in this bitter crusade. I never desired any of this, though I know the reasons for which it must be done. But all I ever wanted was the truth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vakir View Post
    Anyone able to see how it scales relative to DF, Northrend, Pandaria, etc? Would be helpful in refuting the "expansion price patch" nonsense.
    One of the devs is on record saying it's smaller than DF so we can count that in. I wouldn't be surprised if the zones are a little smaller than that for Midnight as well, but Northrend has to be bigger just because it was already so big.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheezits View Post
    One of the devs is on record saying it's smaller than DF so we can count that in. I wouldn't be surprised if the zones are a little smaller than that for Midnight as well, but Northrend has to be bigger just because it was already so big.
    Presuming we get a full Northrend revamp. Could just be the areas near to Ulduar. Hard say.

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