Tanks - why are they so overtuned, yet again?

[lllll]

Dude you were the one who barged into this discussion.

Nope, you clicked a thread about how tanks are overtuned and then went on like "HURR, THESE EXCEPTIONAL PLAYERS AMONG THE TOP ARE DOING THIS AND THIS" as if they're relevant to the thread at all. They're just about as relevant as hafthor is in a discussion about weightlifting at an amateur level, that is to say - not at all.

I simply pointed out what you're doing.

[Ralphias]

I only play tank, theres got to be an incentive to play they can do a lot of aoe damage but single target they tend to fall flat in DF compared to dps try killing a DH in pvp with a prot paladin

[Phob]

Nope, you clicked a thread about how tanks are overtuned and then went on like "HURR, THESE EXCEPTIONAL PLAYERS AMONG THE TOP ARE DOING THIS AND THIS" as if they're relevant to the thread at all. They're just about as relevant as hafthor is in a discussion about weightlifting at an amateur level, that is to say - not at all.

I simply pointed out what you're doing.

Go back and read what was being said before you barged your little self in. Oh, I forgot you don't have that skill.

[lllll]

Go back and read what was being said before you barged your little self in.

What was said doesn't change based on when I pointed out what you were doing. You're bringing up stuff that's wholly irrelevant.

[Phob]

What was said doesn't change based on when I pointed out what you were doing. You're bringing up stuff that's wholly irrelevant.

You just need to learn how to read little buddy don't worry I can get a second grader to teach you.

[lllll]

You just need to learn how to read little buddy don't worry I can get a second grader to teach you.

If you don't like people pointing out when you bring up stuff that's wholly irrelevant, then maybe you should stop doing that.

[Phob]

If you don't like people pointing out when you bring up stuff that's wholly irrelevant, then maybe you should stop doing that.

If you don't like reading you should get off the internet.

[lllll]

If you don't like reading you should get off the internet.

I have read what you said and it's you bringing up stuff that's not relevant at all. Well, that and a load of personal attacks while also posting "YOU MAD?", which is hilarious.

[Phob]

I have read what you said and it's you bringing up stuff that's not relevant at all.

Again child get off the internet.

Actually what would you do first?

If you are clearing content and you're healers are bored and don't have to heal anything would you'

A. Get rid of a tank
B. Tell your heals to go dps
C. Tell your dps to go heals
D. Stay in pug purgatory where you probably belong.

[lllll]

Again child get off the internet.

Actually what would you do first?

If you are clearing content and you're healers are bored and don't have to heal anything would you'

A. Get rid of a tank
B. Tell your heals to go dps
C. Tell your dps to go heals
D. Stay in pug purgatory where you probably belong.

Neither.

I'd go higher keys if I'm bored with the keys I'm doing and probably tell the tank to pull bigger if the dps can handle avoiding avoidable damage.

[Phob]

Neither.

I'd go higher keys if I'm bored with the keys I'm doing and probably tell the tank to pull bigger.

You mean pug purgatory k.

[lllll]

You mean pug purgatory k.

There's a reason why it looks like this:

https://raider.io/mythic-plus-rankin...d/leaderboards

https://raider.io/mythic-plus-rankin...d/leaderboards

https://raider.io/mythic-plus-rankin...d/leaderboards

And why it's not filled with 4 dps groups. You have too little space for any mistakes when you're playing without a healer and even the top players don't want to risk having their key ruined due to not having a healer with them in their keys.

[Phob]

There's a reason why it looks like this:

https://raider.io/mythic-plus-rankin...d/leaderboards

https://raider.io/mythic-plus-rankin...d/leaderboards

https://raider.io/mythic-plus-rankin...d/leaderboards

And why it's not filled with 4 dps groups. You have too little space for any mistakes when you're playing without a healer and even the top players don't want to risk having their key ruined due to not having a healer with them in their keys.

Did I say everyone does it? No. I said it can be done. Healer is the first thing dropped in a raid/dungeon setting. Go read a book, I'm sure it will help you.

[lllll]

Did I say everyone does it? No. I said it can be done. Healer is the first thing dropped in a raid/dungeon setting. Go read a book, I'm sure it will help you.

And yet the highest keys don't really have any 4 dps groups. It requires such perfect play that it's barely worth even considering when you go higher keys AND required a prot paladin acting as the healer.

Like I said, it's irrelevant to even bring up.

[Phob]

And yet the highest keys don't really have any 4 dps groups. It requires such perfect play that it's barely worth even considering when you go higher keys AND required a prot paladin acting as the healer.

OK and? Who cares what the highest .01% of players do? Lol oh wait that's something you say.

Go down to the 15s and you will see 1 tank 4dps come up quite often.

[lllll]

Go down to the 15s and you will see 1 tank 4dps come up quite often.

I'm looking at it and I haven't seen even one so far. I have seen a double healer though.

https://raider.io/mythic-plus-runs/s...hagon-workshop

[Phob]

I'm looking at it and I haven't seen even one so far. I have seen a double healer though.

Sure.
10char

[lllll]

Sure.
10char

Yes.

https://raider.io/mythic-plus-runs/s...eets-of-wonder

Here's another double healer run.

For something you said is happening quite often, there's a distinct lack of them on the leaderboards.

edit: I've checked 30 pages now and I've seen several double healer groups but no 1 tank 4 dps groups.
edit2: 40 pages and no 1 tank 4 dps group so far.

I think you have a very weird idea of what "quite often" means given how I've not seen any so far.

[Phob]

Yes.

https://raider.io/mythic-plus-runs/s...eets-of-wonder

Here's another double healer run.

For something you said is happening quite often, there's a distinct lack of them on the leaderboards.

edit: I've checked 30 pages now and I've seen several double healer groups but no 1 tank 4 dps groups.
edit2: 40 pages and no 1 tank 4 dps group so far.

I think you have a very weird idea of what "quite often" means given how I've not seen any so far.

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/ra...s=62442&page=4

7 in the top 200 on just SG. The problem with raider io is those are registered teams.

[lllll]

The problem with raider io is those are registered teams.

No, raider.io is grabbing every run that's finished unless there's an API outage and even then can catch the run later. Not registered teams. There were 9.6 million runs in season 4.

Warcraftlogs on the other hand requires people to actually log the run and then upload it. Raider.io is more reliable.