group loot in pugs...

[Grof]

...in my experience as a assassination rogue with group loot, it is much easier to loot weapons aka daggers, since most raids have max 1 or 2 rogues, but tiers and esp trinkets, oh my gosh...at least tiers you can get in great vault, so it is not big deal, even some raid leaders manipulate who will they inv due to tokens thing, but looting some kind of agility trinket is almost impossible since at least 10 or more ppls will always role...so why personal loot is not default in pugs and group loot or master loot for guild runs is really beyond me...your thoughts?!?

cheers all!!!

[munkeyinorbit]

...in my experience as a assassination rogue with group loot, it is much easier to loot weapons aka daggers, since most raids have max 1 or 2 rogues, but tiers and esp trinkets, oh my gosh...at least tiers you can get in great vault, so it is not big deal, even some raid leaders manipulate who will they inv due to tokens thing, but looting some kind of agility trinket is almost impossible since at least 10 or more ppls will always role...so why personal loot is not default in pugs and group loot or master loot for guild runs is really beyond me...your thoughts?!?

cheers all!!!

If you're that desperate make your own groups and exclude agility users. Problem solved.

[epigramx]

Blame the ludicrous amount of hunters in the game. I have a pet theory that it's a political thing. If you're right wing and you want to find the most "traditional manly man" role then hunter is what 1st comes to mind.

[Demsi]

Blame the ludicrous amount of hunters in the game. I have a pet theory that it's a political thing. If you're right wing and you want to find the most "traditional manly man" role then hunter is what 1st comes to mind.

Either that or Pet classes tend to be very popular in videogames

[Caprias]

Blame the ludicrous amount of hunters in the game. I have a pet theory that it's a political thing. If you're right wing and you want to find the most "traditional manly man" role then hunter is what 1st comes to mind.

Please get help.

[munkeyinorbit]

Blame the ludicrous amount of hunters in the game. I have a pet theory that it's a political thing. If you're right wing and you want to find the most "traditional manly man" role then hunter is what 1st comes to mind.

Warriors are literally staring at you right in your face. Like, right up in your grill and you think hunter is a manly choice?

I play hunter lots and I am old enough to be a little insecure about gender and roles and shit. But I would rate hunters as at least the third most feminine class.

[epigramx]

Warriors

I thought of that but it's not as traditional. Hunters is the first human "man's" profession and warriors came later as part of more organized societies (besides: even leftists had warriors).

PS Obviously: all this is in jest and there are various ways to pick hunter (but there's obviously some truth in those things one way or another (e.g. trad men wouldn't pick male mage))

[Ast1982]

I'd have to say warrior is the OG manly man

Conan the Barbarian was basically warrior class, about as manly man as you get

Crom cares not for your politics

[sponge5307]

...in my experience as a assassination rogue with group loot, it is much easier to loot weapons aka daggers, since most raids have max 1 or 2 rogues, but tiers and esp trinkets, oh my gosh...at least tiers you can get in great vault, so it is not big deal, even some raid leaders manipulate who will they inv due to tokens thing, but looting some kind of agility trinket is almost impossible since at least 10 or more ppls will always role...so why personal loot is not default in pugs and group loot or master loot for guild runs is really beyond me...your thoughts?!?

cheers all!!!

Let's group the class by armor and main stats

Cloth - Priest, warlock, mage
Leather - Rogue, Druid, Monk, Demon
Mail - Hunter, Shaman, Evoker
Plate - Warrior, Paladin, Death

Main stats

Strength
Death knight: blood, frost, and unholy
Paladin: protection and retribution
Warrior: arms, fury, and protection

Agility
Druid: feral and guardian
Monk: brewmaster and windwalker
Hunter: beast mastery, marksmanship, and survival
Rogue: assassination, outlaw, and subtlety
Shaman: enhancement
Demon Hunter: Havoc, Vengence

Intellect
Druid: balance and restoration
Mage: arcane, fire, and frost
Monk: mistweaver
Paladin: holy
Priest: discipline, holy, and shadow
Shaman: elemental and restoration
Warlock: affliction, demonology, and destruction
Evoker: Both spec

Now let's say the trinket you are after has Agility lets count the tanks out you have ten different specs that use Agility trinket and if you factor in Agility tanks that's 13 specs you rolling against.

My suggestion if you want to get loot easier play a plate wearer

There are only 9 spec you are rolling against for strenght trinket if the tanks want it as well.

If you play a class that needs Int trinket good luck as 17 spec also use Int

[Obbi87]

Group loot sucks in pugs. I get max 1 loot from full run, last week 0.

With Pl i was sure to get minimum 1-2 loot on a full run.

Also, kinda messed up when you see another dps doing 0 dmg, he is just bad and he is getting 5 loot, because of GL.

And us who do the stuff needed. 0.

#BringbackPL!