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  1. #1

    8 dps kara

    We just got our first bear mount on our guild this week and wanted to test something speedy.

    Karazhan

    Prot warr
    Rogue
    Retri pala
    BM hunter
    Enh shaman

    Resto shammy
    S priest
    lock
    lock
    lock

    We did kara with me (the warrior) solo tanking last week so that's not a problem. We overgear the place, I'm geared with welfare MH/BT bosses and the resto shaman has t6 stuff. My worry is about if we can kill the bosses before the shammy goes oom from spam healing me :P

    Anyone have experience in fast runs like this?
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  2. #2

    Re: 8 dps kara

    Quote Originally Posted by Wilhelmi
    We just got our first bear mount on our guild this week and wanted to test something speedy.

    Karazhan

    Prot warr
    Rogue
    Retri pala
    BM hunter
    Enh shaman

    Resto shammy
    S priest
    lock
    lock
    lock

    We did kara with me (the warrior) solo tanking last week so that's not a problem. We overgear the place, I'm geared with welfare MH/BT bosses and the resto shaman has t6 stuff. My worry is about if we can kill the bosses before the shammy goes oom from spam healing me :P

    Anyone have experience in fast runs like this?
    i dont think shammy would go oom. bigger problem would be if raid was getting dmg and shammy wasnt able to heal them all in time. but if everyone is careful enough and has pots / hs just in case it should be doable. hmm i think ill try this too, might be fun :P
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  3. #3

    Re: 8 dps kara

    many guilds do clean kara in one evening with only two healers. and they have gears from gruul/magtheridon/za and some badges stuff as well. no more.

    so you should succeed. about your resto shammy it depends wether he has a good combat regen or not i think.
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    Re: 8 dps kara

    It's already been done with restodruid healing, dunno how much harder would it be with shammy.

  5. #5

    Re: 8 dps kara

    It should be soo easy for ya guy's. We did the 2 healer 1 tank set up with t5/badge gear long time ago, and msot of the times we dont have any cc either.
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  6. #6

    Re: 8 dps kara

    Hmm, only problem I can see here is if the raid takes alot of damage, the shaman will probably have problems keeping both the tank up and healing raid... also for fights like netherspite, range could be an issue. Im guessing you're screwed if you get little red riding hood and the resto shammy has to run and doesnt do it flawlessly :

    At some points I guess it comes down to luck and skill from the individual players, and ofcourse your dps matters aswell, altho I think you got that sorted ^^

    this is what comes to mind atm :>

    good luck if you choose to try it

  7. #7

    Re: 8 dps kara

    Quote Originally Posted by Qira
    Im guessing you're screwed if you get little red riding hood and the resto shammy has to run and doesnt do it flawlessly :
    The whole fight shouldn't take too long so 1 riding hood could be enough for us :P And I remember mind flay slowing him? not sure though.
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    The definition of balance is when all the classes are whining at the same time, at the same volume.

  8. #8

    Re: 8 dps kara

    It's easily doable.

    1 tank
    2 ms wars
    1 rogue
    1 enh shaman

    1 holy priest
    1 shadowpriest
    1 mage
    1 hunter
    1 warlock

    The ms wars can offtank if needed.

  9. #9

    Re: 8 dps kara

    We did it a few weeks ago with me as a tankadin (geared T5/Insignas, ...) and a restau druid (equivalent stuff).
    We cleaned everything exept the prince, Nightbane and Netherspite. We also had a Shadow Priest.

    For the prince, the shadow priest put on healing stuff because on 2 tries we were unlucky on elem spawning right on me => huge amount of fire damage before I can go outside of it during P2 => a bit to much for us.

    For nightbane, we did the same (SP in healing stuff). No big issue.

    We didn't try nethespite because of the time

    To conclude, I think in T6, you should be able to do it well ... and it's really funny and quite challenging.

  10. #10

    Re: 8 dps kara

    shaman's can go oom o.O

    but on topic ive solo tanked quite a few times as a warrior with 1 healer (holy priest).

    quite easy to do really, fast dps with a steady threat control is essential, but you can do a full clear in about 3hrs or less with the right setup.

  11. #11

    Re: 8 dps kara

    We do kara with 8DPS. just 1 paladintank and a resto druid.
    It is just pull alot, AOE, Pull alot, AoE, pull alot, AoE.
    And just keep on going.

    Illhoof was fun. First shackle the resto druid died. Then it was just zerg. And we managed to kill him before he killed someone from us

    BTW our record was 2h 13min. Full clear.

  12. #12

    Re: 8 dps kara

    same group as op we did it in about 70 mins

  13. #13

    Re: 8 dps kara

    Dunno if you've noticed, but they're all pretty crazy geared :S a speed run of Kara on Youtube showed that t6 geared ppl didn't take care of the adds at Curator, but just nuked him down before the first evocation i think. So yeah, that 1 extra dps + 7 other imba geared dps makes a pretty big difference.

  14. #14

    Re: 8 dps kara

    Quote Originally Posted by Xionor
    Shouldn't take too long? Huh? You just have one extra dps.

    Normal kara runs are 2 healers, 1 tank, 7 dps. Now you got 8 dps! Omg! That's like 10% more damage, woohoo!
    Wowwiki says that BBW has 380000 hp. Lets have something crappy like 9k raid dps. That makes a little over 42 seconds of combat. Not too much.

    Aran should go down even faster since there's no tanking. We also have quite good interrupts and groundings. Illhoof in the other hand will be difficult. Hope for the paladin to get chained ^^
    Nightbane shouldn't be hard. All the ranged can kill him while he's in the air reducing the time the shaman has to heal me.
    Quote Originally Posted by ant1pathy
    The definition of balance is when all the classes are whining at the same time, at the same volume.

  15. #15

    Re: 8 dps kara

    1 Pala Tank, 1 Resto Druid
    8 Dps

    Piece of pie

    (edit) Our dps class makeup was always varied so there was no "set way" to do it - but we were coming out at about 3 1/2 to 4hrs each time. We weren't really hardcoring it so a good bit of afk'ing and dossing about.

    BTW: We were doing this in Heroic/Kara gear - cleared ZA (only got 3 timed) in Kara gear.

    You dont need crazy gear to fly through Karazhan, but it sure helps, obviously
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  16. #16

    Re: 8 dps kara

    Quote Originally Posted by Jordybe
    We do kara with 8DPS. just 1 paladintank and a resto druid.
    It is just pull alot, AOE, Pull alot, AoE, pull alot, AoE.
    And just keep on going.

    Illhoof was fun. First shackle the resto druid died. Then it was just zerg. And we managed to kill him before he killed someone from us

    BTW our record was 2h 13min. Full clear.
    1/1/8 sounds fun. But 2:13 isn´t really that fast. We did Kara in 1:59 with 2/2/6 and just badge-equip. So I guess, 1:30 should be possible.

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  17. #17

    Re: 8 dps kara

    i've heard about speed run down to 1h30 from a friend of mine.
    of course they're t5/t6 geared.
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  18. #18

    Re: 8 dps kara

    Quote Originally Posted by Xionor
    Shouldn't take too long? Huh? You just have one extra dps.

    Normal kara runs are 2 healers, 1 tank, 7 dps. Now you got 8 dps! Omg! That's like 10% more damage, woohoo!

    One fuckup from the shammy and you're all screwed.
    Plus stuff like Aran, Nightbane, Illhoof, is gonna give you some trouble, especially since you gotta heal many targets at once.
    Easy for a resto druid since he can just hot everyone, but a shaman doesn't get that convenience.
    An unlucky chains during Illhoof and you're all dead

    And for the guy who said the SP going in Holy gear - Well, that's no longer 8 dps, is it?
    solo healed those fight as resto shaman... its not an issue... atleast not with T6 gear and around 250 haste rating...

    i died in Shackle though... but reincarnation ftw <3 or Ankh as some people call it...

    Paly tank + Resto shammy = op...

    i'd rather bring a Resto shaman then a resto druid due to resto druid is depending on hots... while the resto shaman do it with instant healing.(for those not understanding what i mean... while druid waits for his hots to tick on the target it might already be to late... he can be dead... while shamans heal is instant. in other words it instantly healing up target after cast.)

    Kara is shit easy...

    ohh btw 2x Resto Shammy, 1x Pally tank, 1x Feral druid 1-2x Spriest(to keep mana up for shaman and Pally during trash). = win in ZA.. had around 10min left when we got bear last clear.
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  19. #19

    Re: 8 dps kara

    Quote Originally Posted by Peng
    1/1/8 sounds fun. But 2:13 isn´t really that fast. We did Kara in 1:59 with 2/2/6 and just badge-equip. So I guess, 1:30 should be possible.
    We can do faster, but that would be risky.
    We are T4/T5/ZA/Badge geared. we are 4/5 SSC 3/4 TK. and hardly raid anymore. We are a fun guild going more to the bar in IF then an instance :P

  20. #20

    Re: 8 dps kara

    1/1/8 is easy with a priest in bagde gear (without shadow)

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