b8279 do you think it's right that Ret pallies are 1000 dps behind rogues/hunters/mages/locks in raids at tier 6 level? Do you think our measly buffs make up for that? If you know paladins like I do, the answer is No to all of those questions. Fair enough your argument. What im saying is that paladins along with their buffs are at your dps level. So a pally doing say 85-90% of your damage would be acceptable in my eyes. Else we have no use being there, as it stands now.Originally Posted by b8279