really dont ever say this one. I can come up with 20 examples about talents that are not balanced around tier between classes.Originally Posted by Xelaeno
really dont ever say this one. I can come up with 20 examples about talents that are not balanced around tier between classes.Originally Posted by Xelaeno
if you look at the 51 point of priest you see that they will prevent wipe completely from a tank dying just with that talent..
i predict priest becoming MT healer.
then why should blizz balance this one?Originally Posted by Karpalo
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If you are not "effective, strong" right now - maybe, you should think about playing a funny little shaman....Originally Posted by Taurruus
They dont but they should come up with decent 51 pointer for priests holy. Skill that prevents wipe but which is on GCD. So if you dont see in future that aint that great.Originally Posted by Xelaeno
i doubt healing setups will change alot in wotlk, you will always have the priest able to raid heal and MT heal.Originally Posted by Taurruus
if u suck now - you will probably suck in wotlk - has nothing to do with class. yet you still have no chance to know how other classes will heal or how druids will even heal, you will have to wait till wotlk comes out.
atm, flourish does have a high base compared to coh, though i am sure many changes will be made including the mana costs of spells (as was posted on blue post) and much more, i doubt the flourish will stay at that base amount.
The numbers do look substantially better for flourish over about every other AoE heal. That is worrisome, but there is a lot to consider in a raiding situation. For example, a druid can cast flourish on a group of 3 players taking damage next to a boss. However, during the 7 second duration, another player could take damage. The flourish healing wont be passed on to them, and casting it again would be a waste. CoH and Chain heal would however pick up the other players when AoE healing. Even counting that, i think this spell is powerful enough to seriously change the druid role in healing, which is not what blizzard wants, so i do hope for at least a slight nerf.
from what i have heard, coh will be healing those who need it more. also, coh is instant cast/(instant heal) and has mana reduction talents in the holy tree. flourish is a hot and not an instant heal, also look at the base mana cost for both spells, flourish is 32% while coh is what 20%?Originally Posted by Maja24
also, just look at what priests are getting in the holy tree... overheal compensation... stop whinning.
Just replying to the above post about the Pally not tanking a
druid into a heroic in which he tanks 5 mobs.
Obviously I am a druid
I have healed many Pallies in heroics including Ramps, BF Shattered Halls
and have never had any trouble healing in TOL form so to me that comment
is unjustified.
Times have changed. Druids are now one of the best healers in the game
with the drawback of not being able to rez which in WOTLK will change. Some
folks just dont want to acknowledge that
in pvp yes. it is very hard for me to effectively raid heal as a tree druid. keeping hots stacked on 2-3 tanks and then throwing some hots on nearby people i can do as long as im not getting chased or shot at.Originally Posted by Drlove
It's pretty clear both the druid and pally 51 point talents are a direct response to how end game raiding turned out in BC. CoH priests and Shaman healers were THE most important part of the raid, arguably as important as which tanking class you were using. Pallies still got in raids as MT healers, but resto druids were definitely backup healers in the high end game. I'm not saying that there aren't awesome druid or pally healers who could kick ass regardless, i'm just saying that the general trend was towards the two AoE healers.
This is how most PvE resto druids felt in BC and SW. The healing classes need to be balanced, and the end game in BC was definitely a blunder. I'm really not surprised that they're overcompensating at this point, i just hope they'll remember to balance this and nourish.Originally Posted by greenmasheen
CoH can also crit where flourish cannotOriginally Posted by Maja24
flourish being a HoT will also determine when it can be used. Im sure both will have situations better suited
and as others have said... talents are gonna make a big difference as well
oh yea and btw... its still in beta