Warriors are doomed

[kyz]

1.Tanking . Once kings of aggro (two 1st years) , huge problems in aggro during 1st months of TBC but then again proving to be the most fiable , in wotlk we will be equal or even bellow paladins.

2.Dps . Wars never got an high acceptance, not to talk about 5mans ofc, but that progressively changed nevertheless we allways had huge aggro problems specially when ure tank is crap.They had putted -10extra aggro but was removed it in last build.

3.pvp. While many ppl may not miss the 2shot we could make before , what depressed me the most is to absolutely need to craft a specific skillmace and get a druid friend to reach some decent rate although in 1st and 2nd season palas were good too.

New shit :

1. Battleshout sux compared to might.
2. Druid aura is better .why? its 40yards good for hunters.while ours is around 20y .

Conclusion: U gonna fight hard if u want ure fuking spot , even more.

Other shit : loot.

Retridins will flood the "labormarket" and Deathknights are coming too . Picking all the plate and 2handers .

Hopefully i have an alt rogue , they will have atleast 2spots per raid (25m) and almost no loot to share . Yes even with many rogues around some will want swords , other daggers , even fists.


For those ..its only beta.. get lost! Curious about war glyphs maybe some with threat reduction who knows :P

[ferris]

first off on beta warriors are #1 in dps

second of all warriors are creating more threat than ever(so is every other tank class)

blizz has already said there are changes comming to the prot tree for warriors and they WILL produce the most threat

and ur 3rd point about pvp is just stupid



and as for threat .... if ur having threat problems in bc .... its either 1 of 2 things ur not in zerker stance or ur tank SUCKS

[Kuhnel]

first off on beta warriors are #1 in dps

second of all warriors are creating more threat than ever(so is every other tank class)

blizz has already said there are changes comming to the prot tree for warriors and they WILL produce the most threat

and ur 3rd point about pvp is just stupid



and as for threat .... if ur having threat problems in bc .... its either 1 of 2 things ur not in zerker stance or ur tank SUCKS

Indeed l0l. quit crying and enj0y the warri0r while it can d0 s0mething

[Kragoth]

To be honest I'm glad there are more viable tanking classes now. Now I wont have to spec Prot every time I want to do an instance because you can't find a warrior to tank (Either not spec'd right or simply can't find one)

Now you can find Feral Druid Tanks, Prot Paladins, DKs, and, of course, other warriors.

More chances for DPS fun for me, as that's more of my gameplay / style.

[ferris]

anyways if warriors dont work out to be good in wotlk

roll a free 55 dk LOL

[Vallos]

First page of MMO Champion:

Shaman sucks now!
Warrior is doomed!
The Death Knight won't be a viable tank!
The Druid won't be able to do anything!

SHUT UP. Your class will not be left behind. The Warrior is the MOST PLAYED class in the game. Why, WHY would Blizzard leave you behind? It's beta, and the class is incredible. Do some research and stop whining. There have been enough threads like this.

[kyz]

first off on beta warriors are #1 in dps

The dps output balance of classes is one of the last things they do. U think that wont be modified? pointless.

second of all warriors are creating more threat than ever(so is every other tank class)

They have stated wars wont have supremacy anymore. U will be able to have as MT as u which.

first off on beta warriors are #1 in dps



and ur 3rd point about pvp is just stupid

Do u see competitive war/priest , war/ other dps . 3v3 same shit war/druid +random . 5v5 its fine. So for u the truth=stupid lol

[Kranaz]

http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?spell=7381

It's always done this btw.

[Merendel]

As a feral druid tank and a raid leader for my guild I'll still take DPS warriors in the expansion. I don't care if their version of the buffs are in some way inferior (range in this case) I will take a competent player over a scrub with a better buff any day.

However if boss encounters echo BC ones warriors or any melee will have to be slightly more skilled than equivelent non utility ranged DPS. Melee needs to know when to duck and weave to stay alive on some boss fights and if they are not smart enough to do that I will replace them with someone that can.

despite what some are saying I still feel that all spec's that are curently viable will still be viable raiders. the difference is people will have to justify themselves with their performance instead of being the raid buff bitch that gets carried to phat loot even though they are a moron when it comes to any boss mechanic more complicated than stand behind the boss and wail on it. I will also take someone that does a bit less damage than someone else even without extra utility if I dont have to hand hold them through every step of a boss fight to keep them alive.

Besides with the way they are talking I suspect they are going to make all DPS spec's be capable of doing comparable DPS once they get around to tweaking the end game. The choice of who to take wont be who brings more utility or more DPS. it will be make sure you have all the needed buffs/debuffs and bring those that wont wipe us to stupidity.

[ferris]

The dps output balance of classes is one of the last things they do. U think that wont be modified? pointless.



They have stated wars wont have supremacy anymore. U will be able to have as MT as u which.


Do u see competitive war/priest , war/ other dps . 3v3 same shit war/druid +random . 5v5 its fine. So for u the truth=stupid lol

1. i know it may change but if u havent knotice all classes are getting dps buffs
2. blizz said and i cant find the quote.. warriors will create the most SINGLE target dammage.. pallys will be best at multi tanking dks the best at magic tanking .... druids an all around swiss army knife

3. ms debuff and 2 2h weps are u kidding me


warriors are just fine stop complaing ... they might be a bit op atm(idk) but i do kno 100% they are not under powered

[Vallos]

Supremacy? You think that the warrior should have supremacy? My God.

Why would anyone play a tanking DK or a tanking Druid or a tanking Paladin? The Warrior should never have supremacy, and as long as Blizzard is sane it will never have supremacy. This is just another person griping to have their class buffed to the point of godliness.

The warrior can hold its own in DPS AND tanking currently. It just received some incredible buffs to DPS, and also some buffs that make them godly in PVP.

And if you are making the argument that we can't discuss the warrior's damage output in this stage of the beta because it will be adjusted-- well then, we can't discuss anything, because clearly it's all subject to change. Everything will be balanced when raid testing begins, and that's the point. If the warrior is really seen to be too weak of a class, it will be fixed. I don't see that happening, though, since there is nothing wrong with it.

[kyz]

First page of MMO Champion:

Shaman sucks now!
Warrior is doomed!
The Death Knight won't be a viable tank!
The Druid won't be able to do anything!

SHUT UP. Your class will not be left behind. The Warrior is the MOST PLAYED class in the game. Why, WHY would Blizzard leave you behind? It's beta, and the class is incredible. Do some research and stop whining. There have been enough threads like this.

Do u have a warrior? Ive spent alot of hours on mine and i still play alot , if u dont make noise nothing will change.

Almost 4years have past . Its common sense that compared to druid and pala tanking , wars tanking is more rigid , less fun. Thats why there has allways been tank shortage.

4 years have past and nothing was done about 5man . /LFm 2 CC mgt /lfm 3 cc...


If u compare the new abilities and playstyle of the war in vanilla wow to TBC u conclude its STATIC Though im not saying its the only class.
Yes we are left behind.

[ferris]

As a feral druid tank and a raid leader for my guild I'll still take DPS warriors in the expansion. I don't care if their version of the buffs are in some way inferior (range in this case) I will take a competent player over a scrub with a better buff any day.

However if boss encounters echo BC ones warriors or any melee will have to be slightly more skilled than equivelent non utility ranged DPS. Melee needs to know when to duck and weave to stay alive on some boss fights and if they are not smart enough to do that I will replace them with someone that can.

despite what some are saying I still feel that all spec's that are curently viable will still be viable raiders. the difference is people will have to justify themselves with their performance instead of being the raid buff bitch that gets carried to phat loot even though they are a moron when it comes to any boss mechanic more complicated than stand behind the boss and wail on it. I will also take someone that does a bit less damage than someone else even without extra utility if I dont have to hand hold them through every step of a boss fight to keep them alive.

Besides with the way they are talking I suspect they are going to make all DPS spec's be capable of doing comparable DPS once they get around to tweaking the end game. The choice of who to take wont be who brings more utility or more DPS. it will be make sure you have all the needed buffs/debuffs and bring those that wont wipe us to stupidity.

ya melee does take a bit more focus to keep an eye out and stay alive

[ferris]

as far as tanking goes each tanking class has its strenghts and weaknesses thats a good thing offers stragey to the game

and for the dps warriors ... u need to have GOOD gear to kno what a warrior is able to do

im not talking kara wellfair epics, get the good stuff and ull be right up there with rogues in dps

[ultradork8]

as far as tanking goes each tanking class has its strenghts and weaknesses thats a good thing offers stragey to the game

and for the dps warriors ... u need to have GOOD gear to kno what a warrior is able to do

im not talking kara wellfair epics, get the good stuff and ull be right up there with rogues in dps

/agree

Without a doubt it all falls back to how gear dependent a warrior is, regardless of spec.

[kyz]

Supremacy? You think that the warrior should have supremacy? My God.

Why would anyone play a tanking DK or a tanking Druid or a tanking Paladin? The Warrior should never have supremacy, and as long as Blizzard is sane it will never have supremacy. This is just another person griping to have their class buffed to the point of godliness.

The warrior can hold its own in DPS AND tanking currently. It just received some incredible buffs to DPS, and also some buffs that make them godly in PVP.

And if you are making the argument that we can't discuss the warrior's damage output in this stage of the beta because it will be adjusted-- well then, we can't discuss anything, because clearly it's all subject to change. Everything will be balanced when raid testing begins, and that's the point. If the warrior is really seen to be too weak of a class, it will be fixed. I don't see that happening, though, since there is nothing wrong with it.

Calm down fold. I am raiding as fury always have , dont care about tanking.

Who gave the supremacy to wars? Remember vanilla wow?IT was blizzard! But u must understand many ppl rolled war over other classes because they had easy spot as a tank and maybe they would prefer a druid /pala but having to risk to stay in the bench.

They take something from us , give us something .

http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?spell=7381

It's always done this btw.

Ok this sounds good.Didnt knew about.

[Militriax]

Retridins will flood the "labormarket" and Deathknights are coming too . Picking all the plate and 2handers .

death knights uses dual wield as pve weapons.

[kyz]

as far as tanking goes each tanking class has its strenghts and weaknesses thats a good thing offers stragey to the game

and for the dps warriors ... u need to have GOOD gear to kno what a warrior is able to do

im not talking kara wellfair epics, get the good stuff and ull be right up there with rogues in dps

No i actually just miss the boots from Gurtogg Bloodboil and a neck from supremus , i wouldnt mind the warglaives either but since we are getting 2x2 h who cares.
So ive experienced that fuking aggro , allways liking the mt ass .

[kyz]

death knights uses dual wield as pve weapons.

lolll Thats why they have this : http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?spell=55108 in their blood spec .

Maybe u didnt get it. Blood is good for tank with his parry abilities but its also the dps spec:
http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?spell=53138
http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?spell=50371

[DiscoMoonkin]

the only warriors that are doomed are the stupid ones

i was on my hunter and this warrior try to gank me

equal gear, he was standing behind me so i decide to turn my camera around and sure enough, like an idiot, he open with heroic leap, i strafe back, completely miss the heroic leap, kite the idiot to death

moral of the story: dont play like an idiot