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    I still don't get the point of this charge in combat thing......

    Improved Charge now generates 5/10 rage.
    (NEW) Warbringer is a new one point talent on Tier 9 that allows Charge to be used in combat. Did I mention the change to Improved Charge?



    Let's assume I spec for both of these.

    So I'm tanking then someone pulls aggro and my intervene is on cooldown (I ran a pug), so then I switch to battle, charge, get 20 rage, change back to defensive lose that rage, and have to try to pull aggro?

    Is this how it'll work?

    See, if it allowed charge to be used in defensive stance, THEN it would make sense. You could be in defensive and out of combat, in front of the next pack of mobs. You charge, get 20 rage (with Imp Charge) and be able to built threat right away.


  2. #2

    Re: I still don't get the point of this charge in combat thing......

    Tactical Mastery + possible PvP uses I think.

  3. #3

    Re: I still don't get the point of this charge in combat thing......

    They said they want to make all trees pvp viable, a charge in combat sounds pvp to me
    If in doubt afk out

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  4. #4

    Re: I still don't get the point of this charge in combat thing......

    I would prefer it for Defensive Stance as well, but they feared it would then become part of a tanking chain (which apparentely they do not want, so yeah, this talent is for PvP and situational PvE).

  5. #5
    Ulrik.
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    Re: I still don't get the point of this charge in combat thing......

    You can close in on a target fast, like supremus when he switches back to phase 1. Can prevent other people from getting hateful strikes then.



  6. #6
    Calminaion
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    Re: I still don't get the point of this charge in combat thing......

    Quote Originally Posted by Guran
    Tactical Mastery + possible PvP uses I think.
    Yup - you should never spec imp charge without tactical mastery ... unless you plan on staying in Battle Stance all the time.

    And you're going to be spec'ing prot to get this and tank, tactical mastery is at the bottom of the prot tree ....

  7. #7

    Re: I still don't get the point of this charge in combat thing......

    If you have no rage at all you can Charge -> Mocking blow -> Def stance

    Or if you are knockbacked in any situation, you can get back without having to use rage with zerk stance -> intercept.

  8. #8

    Re: I still don't get the point of this charge in combat thing......

    I haven't been prot for a good long while (read: ever), but isn't the whole "charge in combat" what Intervene is for?
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  9. #9

    Re: I still don't get the point of this charge in combat thing......

    not exactly. Intervene will charge someone in the raid, not a mob, and take the next shot they receive. it can be used as a charge but it's situational. if a mob is using a ranged attack on someone, then intervene won't land you anywhere near the mob

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    Re: I still don't get the point of this charge in combat thing......

    lose aggro,

    battle stance >> charge >> mocking blow >> defensive stance, etc.

  11. #11
    flammable
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    Re: I still don't get the point of this charge in combat thing......

    It's useless for raiding.

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    Re: I still don't get the point of this charge in combat thing......

    http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?warr...12053122511301
    this is how you should spec for pvp

  13. #13

    Re: I still don't get the point of this charge in combat thing......

    Quote Originally Posted by Karadros
    I haven't been prot for a good long while (read: ever), but isn't the whole "charge in combat" what Intervene is for?
    intervene doesn't generate rage either.

    lose aggro, battle stance, charge, (insert almost any ability here - sunder, mocking blow, hs, op if its up), def. stance, continue.

    also i can picture some pretty intense things happening.....

    caster pulls aggro..
    you intervene, taunt, sunder, battle stance, charge back to original group, defensive stance, continue.

    very 8)
    It's just a game.

  14. #14

    Re: I still don't get the point of this charge in combat thing......

    caster pulls aggro..
    you intervene, taunt, sunder, battle stance, charge back to original group, defensive stance, continue.

    very Cool
    paladins can do the same thing using RD since it has range, but damn that's ten times sexier

  15. #15

    Re: I still don't get the point of this charge in combat thing......

    Quote Originally Posted by alobi
    http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?warr...12053122511301
    this is how you should spec for pvp
    no, like that
    http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?warr...00000000000000
    Please excuse my bad english, it is not my main language.

  16. #16

    Re: I still don't get the point of this charge in combat thing......

    Blizzard stated that mocking blow shall be avaible in every stance. It is planed to be not only restricted to battle stance.

  17. #17

    Re: I still don't get the point of this charge in combat thing......

    http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?warr...00000000000000

    Might be viable in battlegrounds or 5v5..

    Other than that (read : pve) too situational for my tastes

  18. #18

    Re: I still don't get the point of this charge in combat thing......

    Quote Originally Posted by Blïss
    http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?warr...00000000000000

    Might be viable in battlegrounds or 5v5..

    Other than that (read : pve) too situational for my tastes
    Oo

    no, that's not viable anywhere.
    Please excuse my bad english, it is not my main language.

  19. #19
    Calminaion
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    Re: I still don't get the point of this charge in combat thing......

    Latest push -

    *New Talent* - Warbringer - Your Charge ability is now usable while in combat and in any stance.

    Confusion over :-D ... this now rocks ...

  20. #20

    Re: I still don't get the point of this charge in combat thing......

    Like Calm said, it's pretty good now that it's usable in any stance. Wouldn't take imp. charge over 2/3 imp. heroic strike for a raid tanking spec though.

    However, it also makes Safeguard look a little more tempting now.
    Think of the PvP uses it has - you get snared - you charge. you get snared again - you intercept. you get snared yet again - you charge.

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