Remember when raiding made you look unique?

[Krigaren]

I remember wearing full Valor back in the day and having lower level warriors constantly stop and inspect me.

I'm still enjoying that now, with full T7.5 and pieces from Ulduar 25. Being on top of an Amani Warbear with "Twilight Vanquisher" helps a bit too.

My point? Unless your server is progressing so awesomely that everyone is a cookie cutter, looks the same and has the same titles and the same rewards, it just sounds to me like the sky is falling in your little world only.

[blabbling]

I agree that epic loot should be accessible to everyone, however, there need to be a distinction between casual and dedicated players .. with the easy content now it is hard to differentiate ..

I've ran into several cases where i invite a pug with 5/5 T7.5 with naxx25 weapon and he did shit dps .. or a tank who can't hold aggro or a healer who can't heal the tank

[pr25o1]

damn these were cool days !!! I miss them hard ! I started 2 play on the first day wow started in europe and since then this game was ruined bit by bit year by year ! I remember the days where i spend 2 whole months without getting more than 2 or 3 hours of sleep a day just to climb up the honor ladder to get my Knight - Champion (german : Ritter der Allianz <insert name here> ) ..... damn these were epic days ! And now every fckin bastard without the tiniest bit of intelligence gets everything blasted up their asses till their fckin heads blow off oO .... i hate blizz for what they've done to this game ! But anyways it was a damn nice game and it still is in some directions ... (<3 hardmodes ^^)

It was a unique look why i started to grind pvp (the rogue gear looked so damn awesome !) and maybe someone can remember how cool rogues looked back these days with barmans shanker and hearthseeker ! i could cry when i look at the screenies i made because nowadays everyone looks "good" -.-

And raiding was also aa unique look ! I loved the t2 set on my pally it was really the best looking set of all calsses ever (from my pov) !

[Mutin]

Pve makes you look unique. ahhahahhahahah

[nrross]

I was hoping with a title like this, we would be in for a satirical treat. Oh shame. Anyhoo, I totally feel you bro. Before WoW, I was a shivering wreck of a boy, pissing my pants and shitting the bed, always getting erections at the worst possible time. I was a nothing, a nobody. If I wanted to see a naked girl, I had to chalk up inordinate hours of time spent stalking, for that one fleeting glince. Then it all changed when I found WoW.

I spent every waking hour playing and raiding, so that I could attain the one thing that had always eluded me - praise from another human being. Whenever another human felt the need to speak to me, it would always be the same speil, "grow up", "stop following me", "please don't hurt me" etc etc. When people used to encounter me, it filled them with revulsion, some times fear, and always a sadness that something like me actually roamed the streets. Now...they longed for my presence, to bathe in my glory was the highlight of their day. And it made me feel valid, not only that, my long held divinity was finally recognised and people finally saw me the way I always wanted them to - as a God.

Scores of morons would fight over the chance to gaze upon my brilliance. And this was good. I even grew the courage to express my divinity in the real world. My elderly mother once interrupted a cermon I was holding outside Stormwind bank, and I turned to her and scowled "How dare you, woman! Flee from my presence, lest you suffer my terrible wrath". Silenced and stunned, the old bat just stared there, gawking. I stood up in a rage, and with all my godlike strength struck the hag, and then laughed as her frail body fell backwards, her head opening up against the force of the table behind her. She had been pwnt. Those were the days...

And then they decided that since gods like us were in the minority and the casual morons made up the majority of the playerbase, they decided to open the game up, diminishing my status as a God. Blizzard claims it was to do with "business" and other nonsense, but we all know what it was. Damned atheists, would be god destroyers. I know I am a god, and WoW was the only place others would see it.

I am glad you made this thread, oh brother. It has long puzzled me that none of the other God's have made a thread on this issue, where we could lament, together, about the destruction of our power and divinity. Most of the people here won't understand. They are laymen, not fit to clean our boots. They will never know the pain we feel, as gods, as well adjusted, emotionally stable, super buff, well endowed Gods, with awesome fighting skills and who can go for hours in the sack (and frequently do).

Lament dear brother. Our days are numbered.

[atf]

Yea I remember the days when I was thinner and cuter. When I wore a speedo ppl looked at my package and said wow how big is that thi...

Oh wait, wrong forum.

[Gzilia]

I was hoping with a title like this, we would be in for a satirical treat. Oh shame. Anyhoo, I totally feel you bro. Before WoW, I was a shivering wreck of a boy, pissing my pants and shitting the bed, always getting erections at the worst possible time. I was a nothing, a nobody. If I wanted to see a naked girl, I had to chalk up inordinate hours of time spent stalking, for that one fleeting glince. Then it all changed when I found WoW.

I spent every waking hour playing and raiding, so that I could attain the one thing that had always eluded me - praise from another human being. Whenever another human felt the need to speak to me, it would always be the same speil, "grow up", "stop following me", "please don't hurt me" etc etc. When people used to encounter me, it filled them with revulsion, some times fear, and always a sadness that something like me actually roamed the streets. Now...they longed for my presence, to bathe in my glory was the highlight of their day. And it made me feel valid, not only that, my long held divinity was finally recognised and people finally saw me the way I always wanted them to - as a God.

Scores of morons would fight over the chance to gaze upon my brilliance. And this was good. I even grew the courage to express my divinity in the real world. My elderly mother once interrupted a cermon I was holding outside Stormwind bank, and I turned to her and scowled "How dare you, woman! Flee from my presence, lest you suffer my terrible wrath". Silenced and stunned, the old bat just stared there, gawking. I stood up in a rage, and with all my godlike strength struck the hag, and then laughed as her frail body fell backwards, her head opening up against the force of the table behind her. She had been pwnt. Those were the days...

And then they decided that since gods like us were in the minority and the casual morons made up the majority of the playerbase, they decided to open the game up, diminishing my status as a God. Blizzard claims it was to do with "business" and other nonsense, but we all know what it was. Damned atheists, would be god destroyers. I know I am a god, and WoW was the only place others would see it.

I am glad you made this thread, oh brother. It has long puzzled me that none of the other God's have made a thread on this issue, where we could lament, together, about the destruction of our power and divinity. Most of the people here won't understand. They are laymen, not fit to clean our boots. They will never know the pain we feel, as gods, as well adjusted, emotionally stable, super buff, well endowed Gods, with awesome fighting skills and who can go for hours in the sack (and frequently do).

Lament dear brother. Our days are numbered.

epix

[Gzilia]

No offence but the Twilight Vanquisher title isn't "epic" and was nothing to boast about, more of a title to hide.

gief me a armory with you + title

[Arcaria]

I like epeening, obviously.
Do you disagree that people who are better than yourself deserve to stand out from yourself as being better?

Dude, I seriously can't help but laugh at you. Your real life must be sort of pathetic.

Also, here's a hint for you. You're not superior...you simply have more time.

[Preach07]

Also, here's a hint for you. You're not superior...you simply have more time.

So do you disagree that people who spend a lot of time on something should stand out as having spent a lot of time on it?

The principle is still the same. You're not hearing what he's saying, you're getting offended that he used the phrases "stand out" and you seemingly interpret him talking about being better than someone in an ideal situation as him saying he is better than you.

I could do what you just did and go "I'm laughing at you for being so insecure about your own skills, that you feel the need to attack OP". I obviously won't, because that implies I am misunderstanding your differing points of view, which I'm not.

[Jax Omen]

Maybe I'm unique, but I have had multiple people in the last few months asking me where I got my gear from. Specifically, my Infection Repulser mace and my Tier shoulders. o_O

There's always going to be bads to boost your e-peen. There's no reason to deny skilled casuals OR hardcores cool gear.

[Preach07]

Actually, I am receiving a sort of gratification these days that is similar. Things changed, but there's still a bunch of less skilled players that rever me even though I am probably below average at best in a top raiding context. I'm better than them though, which is the point. So they tell all their friends how good I am and shit. This is sorta the same, and in a sense, I appreciate it more because they are appreciating my skill and not the skin models of the items on my character.

[SFJake]

Now people respect you from what you are and how you good you do, instead of about how epic is your gear.

See nothing wrong with that.

[Arcaria]

So do you disagree that people who spend a lot of time on something should stand out as having spent a lot of time on it?

The principle is still the same. You're not hearing what he's saying, you're getting offended that he used the phrases "stand out" and you seemingly interpret him talking about being better than someone in an ideal situation as him saying he is better than you.

I could do what you just did and go "I'm laughing at you for being so insecure about your own skills, that you feel the need to attack OP". I obviously won't, because that implies I am misunderstanding your differing points of view, which I'm not.

Nope, I started playing this game during the open beta right before launch because I was trying to decide between it and EQ2 having been playing EQ1 for a long time.

I had tons and tons of time and knew how to raid. One of the few players on my server that understood grouping, crowd control etc. My guild was the top guild on our server and the first ones busting through MC, BWL etc. I used to get the whispers and stuff from people but never thought I was awesome.

There are very few parts of this game that really take skill. There are people who either "get it" or they don't. Once you have that the rest comes down to playing a lot. Raiding takes time and we all know that gear is usually rewarded to the players who show up the most and can be counted on to be there. That's just how it is.

My contention is, that if someone feels "better" (I'm quoting the OP) because they have more time to devote to a video game then they really are kind of pathetic. The only thing superior about old school raiders was our epic amount of free time hence lack of lives.

There's nothing in this game that can't be obtained through a minimum level of comptency and knowledge with a gigantic investment in, say it with me guys...time.

[Nizjub]

I think people need to get past these nostalgic memories of what WoW was. Wow is a better game now than it was pre bc and during bc. While you may hold onto fond memories of boss encounters and gettin pieces of gear that looked "cool" the game is

1)Far more balanced and diverse in the amount of specs u can choose and do well in than it used to be. (in vanilla) If you were a warior, you were a tank. All sets made u a tank. If you were a priest, you were a healer. BC introduced the multiple tier sets for different specs and it was one of the best things they ever did.

2) With a few exceptions, most old world battles aren't as fun and engaging as the new ones. Ive gone back and done them, Onyixia wasnt fun, Nefarian wasnt fun, Hakkar wasnt fun. As the developers got older they refined what they consider a fun encounter and the encounters we see now (except Naxx i mean cause they were already there) are fun. Maybe a bit easy without hard modes, but at least they are fun.

3) Hard mode is imo the single smartest business and gameplay move they have ever created. They have made a system where virtually anyone can see the content they work so hard on, while at the same time make that same content on hard mode accessible only by the dedicated few. Two specific thing to note here. The first is that developers put (in the past) there hardest work in gameplay, visual design, music and overall feel to raids less than 10% (and thats a generous number) would ever see, less yet that would clear it all. It frankly wasn't fair to them. The second point, and i cant stress this enough, is get over yourself. People like to see when Ensidia or Vodka clears a hard mode, and state the game is broken and way to easy. QQ the casuals have ruined our game. Your not in Ensidia. You did not clear the hard mode. More importantly, your letting the advancements and achievements of somone WHO IS NOT YOU alter your state of mind about the game. If we both buy Kingdom Hearts 2 and i beat it faster than you, would u complain its to easy? If we both buy subway sandwichs and i eat mine faster would u say they were too delicous?

4) Lastly, in Vanilla and partially in bc, gear meant u were a good player. In wrath its title, achievements and mounts. Gear is now something u get to progress your stats so u can clear more content. One idealogy is not better than the other. Its just different, and different isnt bad.

[klaps_05]

Sorry for reading only the first page, but I saw some scary long posts so i wanted to avoid them :P

to the OP,

In my personal oppinion blizzard failed epicly, because for example preBC even when you had full dungeon 1 set you could differ from the others. like someone said - atm everyone looks the same and that is extremely boring.

you have to get legendary in order to be noticed, not that it matters, but who doesn't like to be admired at ?

that is my personal oppinion ofc, blizzard doesn't really care about mine or someone else(no offence). the sad truth is that the game is being commercialized(spelling hurts), so enjoy it while you still actually can

[heerobya]

You sound like my grandparents... "ohh I remember back then when the trees were much greener and everything were better".
The fact is that ppl tend to remember only the good things about the past. If you really think about it i bet youll get to the point where you realise how nice WoW is now compared to back then.

/thread

[Vordie]

Yeah, I do.. :-(((((

[Marine1]

I miss back when,

a screw was a screw, a coke was a coke, and crack's what you were doing, when you were crackin jokes I miss back..... when.....

[nrross]

In my personal oppinion blizzard failed epicly, because for example preBC even when you had full dungeon 1 set you could differ from the others. like someone said - atm everyone looks the same and that is extremely boring.

you have to get legendary in order to be noticed, not that it matters, but who doesn't like to be admired at ?

that is my personal oppinion ofc, blizzard doesn't really care about mine or someone else(no offence). the sad truth is that the game is being commercialized(spelling hurts), so enjoy it while you still actually can

So you mean to tell me that there are raid nights where you sit and think "This night would be perfect...if only we all looked different...dammit I just can't work like this"? Of all the reasons for playing, I never thought I would encounter one like this. Fair enough though, I suppose it is a legitimate, albeit slightly trivial annoyance.

Yea, commercialising this commercial computer game is like so wrong. Its like, the corporations want to make it commercial and do corperate things to it, it aint right bro. I mean come on, every single product which you attain via paying for it is commercial. It has always been commercial, way to sound like a moron. Whatever your goal was in posting this, you didn't attain it, the only thing you managed was to sound very ignorant of the basics of business.

This place is riddled with retarded complaints against Blizzard, but congratulations, you are the new champ. I am not surprised anymore that wordy posts scare you. We can now all see why this is. GZ!